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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#4576: Sep 11th 2013 at 7:23:56 PM

It was psychic powers. He was beaten by being challenged to do math equations.

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Mr.NaziFace Since: May, 2013
#4577: Sep 11th 2013 at 11:38:28 PM

So Basically, for Goku, Defeat Means Friendship for Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, just not for GT?

edited 11th Sep '13 11:44:38 PM by Mr.NaziFace

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4578: Sep 11th 2013 at 11:42:30 PM

Well, the Androids kinda became friends with them, but Goku was dead for that...

And in GT he only really became friends with Nuova Shenron, and even then they were already on good terms before fighting.

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#4579: Sep 11th 2013 at 11:43:35 PM

They never explained what happened to 17 after that. Was he revived after Cell was killed? If so, why didn't he return as a fighter on friendlier terms?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4580: Sep 11th 2013 at 11:45:31 PM

He was killed in the same blast that killed Goku and King Kai, and was subsequently revived by their wish to bring Cell's victims back. He just went away to live a peaceful life of seclusion rather than join up with them. He clearly considers himself on good terms with them, at least, if his contribution to Goku's Spirit Bomb is any indication (And GT having him deliberately let Goku kill him as Super 17).

I wonder WHERE 17 appeared when he was revived. He was killed on King Kai's planet, after all...

edited 11th Sep '13 11:46:46 PM by Anomalocaris20

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#4581: Sep 11th 2013 at 11:49:30 PM

But those "Weren't" the Namekian dragon balls after all.

edited 11th Sep '13 11:49:54 PM by randomness4

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#4582: Sep 12th 2013 at 5:06:29 AM

17 didn't want to be around with the knowledge that one of the most owned guys in the series was banging his hot sister.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4583: Sep 12th 2013 at 9:39:39 AM

Ah, yes, there's that too. tongue

It's hard to imagine that Krillin is 17's brother-in-law, or that 17 is an uncle by the time Marron is born.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#4584: Sep 12th 2013 at 4:24:31 PM

I actually just started this and it's been hilarious so far.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#4585: Sep 12th 2013 at 6:20:35 PM

"Olly olly oxen bitch!"

I'll get my ass kicked for it, but I'm using this somewhere.

Amazing, Team Four Star used that Namek joke three times already and it's still funny as hell. That scene with Gero throwing that one back at Piccolo was just mean.

nairoxev Since: Nov, 2011
#4586: Sep 13th 2013 at 11:32:44 AM

Is it me or are they totally going to make Trunks be the one who reminds Gero about the real androids?

ScarletCajun Belligerent Webhead from Lafayette, La. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#4587: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:04:24 PM

So, wants to guess the quirks for 16, 17, and 18?

I keep thinking Dr. Girlfriend for 18 and either HK-47 or a Dalek for 16.

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#4588: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:08:08 PM

Dalek's only work when in relation to Trunks. I'm thinking maybe a Terminator-like voice.

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#4589: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:15:45 PM

I don't think Dr. Girlfriend would work for 18.

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#4590: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:16:12 PM

I doubt 17 and 18 will have particularly big quirks. I'm more expecting something like what they did with Vegeta and Frieza. Basically the same personality, but written more comedically, where appropriate.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4591: Sep 13th 2013 at 9:45:52 PM

I'm more curious about Cell. I really hope he's like a composite of his DNA donors, occasionally having Goku lapses.

"I LOVE CORNBREAD!!!" indeed.

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#4592: Sep 13th 2013 at 10:03:28 PM

I wonder WHERE 17 appeared when he was revived. He was killed on King Kai's planet, after all...

My pet theory: He resuscitated in that fountain over by Capsule Corp. The one that Yamcha spawned in when he was resurrected just after Namek exploded, immediately after they discussed the fact that Goku can't be resurrected because you pop back to life where your body is, and for Goku, that was the depths of space.

Yamcha is too incompetent to follow metaphysical laws of existence that were just explained five seconds ago.

edited 13th Sep '13 10:04:07 PM by TobiasDrake

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4593: Sep 13th 2013 at 10:10:49 PM

More like those metaphysical laws decided to bend themselves to deliberately spawn Yamcha in water rather than revive him somewhere safer.

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Mr.NaziFace Since: May, 2013
#4594: Sep 14th 2013 at 12:47:52 AM

I'm more curious about Cell. I really hope he's like a composite of his DNA donors, occasionally having Goku lapses.
Please have some of Nappa in him.

edited 14th Sep '13 12:48:53 AM by Mr.NaziFace

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#4595: Sep 14th 2013 at 5:39:41 AM

So is he just not going to have Frieza/Cold dna in him, or will it turn out the drones grabbed some of it on their own?

MasterGhandalf Since: Jul, 2009
#4596: Sep 14th 2013 at 6:40:40 AM

Why wouldn't he? The drone bug that gathered genetic samples for use in Cell was different from the one that Gero used to spy on Goku, and the Cell-bug wasn't destroyed until Piccolo's first meeting with Cell.

EDIT: Remember, Gero didn't create Cell personally, he came up with the idea and then created a computer that created Cell. So what Gero knows about doesn't necessarily limit what the computer (which has its own sample-gathering drone bug) knows about.

EDIT II: Someone more intimately familiar with the Dragonball/DBZ canon can feel free to elaborate on/correct me, but I distinctly remember all of this being explained by Cell himself shortly after his first appearance.

edited 14th Sep '13 6:43:41 AM by MasterGhandalf

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#4597: Sep 14th 2013 at 8:38:23 AM

His explaining it and pointing out the drone is why Piccolo was able to see and destroy it.

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#4599: Sep 15th 2013 at 3:05:46 PM

[up]No matter how many Big Green Dub clips I see, it still never fails to amaze me that someone produced that seriously. Least. Intimidating. Cell. Ever.

Also, Trunks, props for trying a Badass Boast there, but next time, would it hurt to use one that actually makes sense?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4600: Sep 15th 2013 at 3:47:08 PM

That isn't real, just so you know. Imma Vegeta used Big Green sound clips and put them over that scene (Hence Krillin talking about getting back to earth, even though he's on it).

Big Green only dubbed movies, not the series proper.

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