I'm going to hate when T 4 S introduce Cell. I really don't want to see him use his tail on screen. There is a reason why I burned that scene out of my head. No amount of creative writing or humor will make me see that again.
We are all made of star stuff. Very, very weird star stuff."AH, my organs! Stay in their, stay in your home, daddy needs you!"
I liked his line as it was happening. "Daddy, I don't want to be on Namek anymore."
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.You know, this discussion of Cell, combined with Vegeta's Curb-Stomp Battle against 19 in the most recent episode, really made me think about an odd quirk of this particular arc- namely, how it goes overboard with Disc One Final Bosses, who seem to come in pairs. Sure, Cell is the ultimate threat of the arc, but before him you've got 17 and 18, and before them 19 and 20/Gero, and before them Freeza and King Cold. It's basically the Sorting Algorithm of Evil being applied within a single season, and unlike the Namek arc (where there's an escalation of increasingly stronger minions until finally Freeza himself steps up to bat, but it was clear Freeza was the Big Bad from the beginning) each set is basically supplanted by someone stronger, until we get to Cell. I'm not sure what, if anything, it signifies (and probably has more to do with Toriyama's creative processes than anything- I seem to remember reading somewhere that his editors didn't like the initial androids and kept telling him to bring in new villains).
... wonder if TFS will have someone snarkily lampshade how as soon as the heroes get good enough to beat the current bad guys, even stronger bad guys show up seemingly out of the blue. Maybe have Piccolo get exasperated about it after meeting Cell...
Well, Cell was initially weaker than 16-18, right? Also, were 19 and 20 the ones not as strong as Trunks suggested, which would lead us to believe there was more? Finally, Frieza and King Cold were beaten by an Outside-Context Hero, otherwise they'd have curbstomped? But... fair enough, there was quite a lot of escalation that arc.
Frieeza and Cold woul have been easily stomped by Goku, but would have caused plenty of damage by the time he showed up, had Trunks not stepped- wait a sec. No they wouldn't have.
Even in Trunks's timeline, Frieza doesn't manage o kill any of the fighting cast before the Androids do.
Not even Yamcha.
I have a message from another time...The reason for the Disc-One Final Boss thing is because Toriyama intended to have 19 and 20 as the villains. His editors basically said "Come on, an old geezer and the Pillsbury Dough Boy?" so he designed 17 and 18. They then said "Come on, two teenagers?", so Toriyama designed Cell, who was considered satisfactory.
Also, when you fail to kill Yamcha, your villain status gets revoked. Frieza and his father are now just background characters not unlike the rich guy Cell kills or Mr. Satan's entourage.
edited 30th Jul '13 10:21:17 PM by Anomalocaris20
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I think my favorite moment of Black Comedy was after Frieza got cut in half;
"AH, my organs! Stay in their, stay in your home, daddy needs you!"