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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#4176: May 20th 2013 at 9:59:28 AM

What's all this "WILL be" nonsense?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#4177: May 20th 2013 at 10:06:42 AM

Krillin is ALREADY whipped like a dog. tongue

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#4178: May 20th 2013 at 3:22:03 PM

It's quite possible that his relationship with 18 will be a horribly dysfunctional nightmare... and he'll still be deliriously happy because it's the best thing that's happened to him in ages.

What's precedent ever done for us?
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#4179: May 22nd 2013 at 9:18:41 PM

Slender: The Arrival: Part 4 is up.

Well, he eventually got it. Somehow.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4180: May 23rd 2013 at 3:25:08 PM

18 will totally be Slenderman. The LP is already filled with so much chemistry and sexual tension.

Also, why doesn't Krillin just use the Destructo Disc to destroy the door and get out?

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#4181: May 23rd 2013 at 4:10:13 PM

Krillin's only playing the game - he's not in it.

edited 23rd May '13 4:10:26 PM by Spirit

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#4182: May 23rd 2013 at 4:15:56 PM

I know. I also know that Krillin was locked in a room by Vegeta with the computer. Krillin should still be capable of cutting through a door. Or the computer. Or even Vegeta if the Destructo Disc wasn't slow as hell.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#4183: May 23rd 2013 at 4:19:19 PM

By not playing it he runs the risk of getting his ass kicked by Vegeta. Which while not as bad as playing a game with SlenderPopo, is still pretty bad.

Lose-lose really.

edited 23rd May '13 4:20:50 PM by Spirit

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4184: May 23rd 2013 at 4:23:32 PM

[up] He could always hide out with Goku. Or get Bulma's help once she gets Vegeta Whipped.

Or use the Destructo Disc. Admittedly, killing Vegeta wouldn't stick, but it might buy him like a week until everyone else gets the Dragon Balls again because they think they need Vegeta to stop the androids.

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#4185: May 23rd 2013 at 8:37:16 PM

Vegeta would just dodge the Kienzan, like he did the first time.

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#4186: May 23rd 2013 at 9:43:49 PM

He really should have spent some time working on that. When you have a technique that can cut anything apart, but has flaws like time to create, noticability, and speed, the best thing to do is work on ironing out those flaws.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4187: May 23rd 2013 at 9:46:39 PM

If possible.

Also, I'm a bit late on realising this but "cut anything" may not be true. The claim is only made by Freeza and might be BS since he was no way of measuring that.

edited 23rd May '13 9:48:02 PM by Saiga

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#4188: May 23rd 2013 at 9:55:08 PM

Can it cut through Katchin?

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#4189: May 23rd 2013 at 11:38:46 PM

It couldn't cut Perfect Cell.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4190: May 24th 2013 at 1:10:52 AM

In filler. We can't really judge it based on the manga although it does cut Boo but who knows with Boo.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4191: May 24th 2013 at 4:00:55 AM

I think not cutting Perfect Cell was dumb filler. I mean, Cell already has the regeneration thing going for him. That's reason enough for it not to work.

edited 24th May '13 8:24:12 AM by unnoun

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#4192: May 24th 2013 at 7:20:33 AM

Buu is so fluid that it's hard to claim him as a definitive example, but it definitely seems that, filler aside, the claims of the kienzan being able to cut through anything have never been refuted, and there's plenty of instances to support it being able to cut through things that Krillin's power level is too weak to allow, such as Frieza.

Krillin really could have been spectacular if he hadn't gotten Overshadowed by Awesome.

edited 24th May '13 7:21:07 AM by TobiasDrake

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#4193: May 24th 2013 at 8:03:19 AM

Buu's body got pierced by bullets

It can be as weak as butter

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#4194: May 24th 2013 at 9:30:33 AM

Did we ever get somebody who had a technique that let him withstand any attack?

Because if so, I have something I want to try out.

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#4195: May 24th 2013 at 9:49:38 AM

Most of the cast has that, just in varying forms of durability.

Ultimately, infinity is subjective. "Cut through anything" doesn't literally mean "it is impossible within the boundaries of physics, magic, and anything else you can conceive of for this to not cut through X". It means "capable of cutting through anything and everything that exists, as far as we know".

Likewise, "invulnerable" has an unspoken "to anything that's been attempted, possibly anything that exists at this time, but not necessarily definitely so". Most of the cast is invulnerable; however, most of the cast is also capable of unstoppable force as well, so it becomes an equation of "Is my unstoppable force more powerful than your invulnerability? If yes, you take damage. If no, you ignore."

edited 24th May '13 9:51:02 AM by TobiasDrake

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#4196: May 24th 2013 at 11:31:33 AM

I think Buu can be as durable as he wants. I assume he let the bullets pass through him just to show that they'd have no effect even when he lets his guard down. Or because he doesn't care and it's less energy-expensive to just regenerate the bullet holes than to bother blocking the bullets.

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#4197: May 24th 2013 at 4:27:52 PM

Boo's regeneration is just an extension of him having full control over his physical being. So he can make himself soft or hard whenever he pleases while the rest of us have to go through the unwanted boner phase.

So yeah the most we can say is that Kuririn at a battle Power of 75,000 can cut cut through Freeza at a battle power of over 1,000,000. Although I have no idea if it's something that scales with the user's battle power like other techniques. I could see it going either way.

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#4198: May 24th 2013 at 4:34:39 PM

I was actually thinking about this earlier today, and it occurred to me that most of the techniques we see characters use are immensely wasteful. A beam so large it completely engulfs its target wastes a lot of energy; all the energy that isn't actually hitting the person. Then, what energy does hit them is spread out over their entire body, which is the absolute worst way to inflict damage to a person.

The kienzan, by comparison, has a very thin point of contact; on top of that, because it's a cutting edge that is constantly spinning, it doesn't even need to be strong enough to overpower its target; it is significantly easier to cut a line through an object than it is to crush it into powder. Much less force is required for the former.

So if Goku puts 100 kilonukes into a Kamehameha but only 15 kilonukes of force ever actually hit Frieza, that was a complete waste of an attack; Frieza shrugs it off like it was nothing. But the thin, curved kienzan has the potential to be completely fatal to non-regenerating opponents significantly more powerful than Krillin because it simply has better metaphysics behinds it.

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#4199: May 24th 2013 at 4:37:28 PM

[up]That's what makes the special beam cannon so special.

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#4200: May 24th 2013 at 4:58:02 PM

Woudldnt that make the Spirit Bomb the most ineffective attack ever?

Then again most beams explode upon impact anyway and dont let the rest of of the energy travel past the target


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