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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#4126: May 3rd 2013 at 5:28:26 AM

[up]He's purely mechanical, he doesn't have a soul. Typical, the one time someone dies permanently in DBZ, and it's only because there's no means of resurrecting him.

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#4128: May 3rd 2013 at 6:19:17 AM

Being purely mechanical should make it easier to resurrect him. Just have Shenron reconstruct 16's AI chip thing that controlled his personality and then repair his body. That's gotta be easier than raising the dead.

A broken machine is a hell of a lot easier to repair than a broken human.

edited 3rd May '13 6:19:46 AM by TobiasDrake

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#4129: May 3rd 2013 at 6:28:51 AM

[up]Couldn't Bulma and her dad just try to rebuild him?

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#4130: May 3rd 2013 at 6:32:17 AM

[up][up] While Shenlong could do it, the wish used would have most likely excluded him.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#4131: May 3rd 2013 at 6:35:12 AM

They could have revived 16 instead of getting rid of 17 and 18's bombs.

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#4132: May 3rd 2013 at 6:36:55 AM

Although I won't totally discount the possibility that 16 can't be revived. There's no telling how AI works, you might completely restore the body but the actual personality may not return.

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#4133: May 3rd 2013 at 6:43:15 AM

[up] Shenron rebuilt Android 8 in one of the movies (The Path to Power, a retelling of the early stories) without problems...

(And so did Porunga when he revived everyone at the end of Z, since 8 makes a cameo after then, taking part in the spirit bomb).

edited 3rd May '13 6:50:53 AM by CobraPrime

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#4134: May 3rd 2013 at 6:51:34 AM

While Shenlong could do it, the wish used would have most likely excluded him.

Oh, it almost certainly did. He's not a living thing, they can't bring him "back to life". I'm talking about making a separate wish to reconstruct 16 specifically.

The reason it would have to be a wish, rather than just rebuilding him, is that without that critical chip thing that his personality and memories and everything is stored on, you can't rebuild him, you can just build a new 16. Making a wish upon a magic dragon to get 16's actual control chip back seems like the best way to restore 16 himself, rather than just building "the new Android 16, hopefully as good as the original?"

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#4135: May 3rd 2013 at 6:54:28 AM

[up] Note that again, when a similar wish is made to Porunga (revive all the people who died since the day of the 26th Martial Arts Tournament, except the very ones) he doesn't exclude 8. And AFAIK, 8 is not mechanical.

Guessing Shenron's just a dick or he hates robots.

edited 3rd May '13 6:54:47 AM by CobraPrime

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#4136: May 3rd 2013 at 7:54:31 AM

Thinking back, Krillin wished the bombs away because Shenron couldn't turn the Androids into humans because of their strange power, or something to that effect. So maybe he doesn't have the ability to do stuff with powerful complicated robotics.

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#4137: May 3rd 2013 at 9:03:25 AM

He couldn't turn them to humans because they were already technically (heh) humans, right?

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#4138: May 3rd 2013 at 9:19:42 AM

Didn't Cell vaporize whatever was left of 16's head? That seems to be where the vital parts for reconstruction are.

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#4139: May 3rd 2013 at 9:29:38 AM

Nah he just stepped on it.

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#4140: May 3rd 2013 at 3:14:20 PM

The difficulty and near-impossibility in successfully reconstructing 16's chip is why the reconstruction would be a wish being made to magical dragon, rather than just Bulma rebuilding it. I'm sure Shenron could just will the pieces to reassemble themselves, whereas Bulma would actually have to find all of them and then figure out some way of bonding them back together, which probably isn't actually possible.

edited 3rd May '13 3:15:14 PM by TobiasDrake

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#4141: May 3rd 2013 at 3:24:02 PM

I dunno, I should think it's easier to reassemble a purely mechanical being than transforming mechanical parts back into flesh, which is presumably what Shenron would've had to do to turn 17 and 18 back to normal.

Well, either that, or locate their missing biological parts, restore them to previous condition (because they're probably decaying something awful by this point), and then replace the mechanical components with the mechanical ones.

I'd go with the idea that 16 just couldn't be brought back by the wish that brought everyone else back because of the way it was worded, and that when it didn't work everyone just thought bringing him back would be completely impossible.

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#4142: May 3rd 2013 at 4:05:49 PM

@Cobra Keep in mind that that's filler, and they were trying to shove in as many cameos as they could.

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#4143: May 3rd 2013 at 7:59:22 PM

17 and 18 were not purely mechanical.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4144: May 4th 2013 at 5:36:43 AM

You still couldn't just get rid of their mechanical parts.

Possibly because then they wouldn't be Androids 17 and 18 anymore.

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#4145: May 4th 2013 at 10:19:37 AM

Or because, if you got rid of the mechanical parts without replacing them with anything, they'd probably die, depending on how much of and what of their bodies Gero replaced.

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#4146: May 4th 2013 at 12:47:06 PM

Well, it definitely wasn't 18's Uterus and Ovaries.

The Menstrual Cycle as a whole was probably intact to, because those hormonal changes and changes to the endometrium are both important and delicate.

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#4148: May 8th 2013 at 6:55:04 PM

Blue Water dub is like the GT of GT.

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#4149: May 8th 2013 at 8:56:51 PM

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