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PikaHikariKT Since: Jan, 2001
#4026: Apr 30th 2013 at 9:58:10 AM

If it wasn't mentioned in the original either, how can it come across as them mocking the dub?

You'd be surprised at how often people have to be corrected on the internet.

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#4027: Apr 30th 2013 at 10:13:25 AM

Look Cobra, it's becoming more and more difficult to get nice strawberries, even in season, I'm not saying I condone what what Bulma did, but I certainly understand it.

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#4028: Apr 30th 2013 at 10:21:21 AM

I think we forgetting that Bulma only shot after Goku lifted her bike and destroyed it. I mean I know she ran him over, but she didn't mean to.

As for Krillin while he never tried to kill Goku himself. He was more than willing to let Goku died in the beginning.

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#4029: Apr 30th 2013 at 10:27:16 AM

I think we forgetting that Bulma only shot after Goku lifted her bike and destroyed it.

A) She had a wallet full of replacements. So it's not like it was a loss

B) She did ram him first.

Neither of those justify attempting to aerate the 11 years old's head. Plus none of those excuse the rest of the rampant douchebaggery.

Look Cobra, it's becoming more and more difficult to get nice strawberries, even in season, I'm not saying I condone what what Bulma did, but I certainly understand it.

Well, I guess. I mean killing for Strawberry seems so selfish....

Blackberries however... I will fucking end anyone for some...

As for Krillin while he never tried to kill Goku himself. He was more than willing to let Goku died in the beginning.

When? I got no memory of that. Been years since I read the Manga admittedly.

edited 30th Apr '13 10:27:57 AM by CobraPrime

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#4030: Apr 30th 2013 at 10:34:53 AM

A) She had a wallet full of replacements. So it's not like it was a loss

B) She did ram him first.

Neither of those justify attempting to aerate the 11 years old's head. Plus none of those excuse the rest of the rampant douchebaggery.

She was a teenage girl out on her own in the big, scary world full of rapists and monsters, who suddenly ran across a terrifying HULK child that can survive being hit at full-speed by a motorcycle, who was now behaving aggressively towards her. She PANICKED'.

edited 30th Apr '13 10:35:03 AM by TobiasDrake

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#4031: Apr 30th 2013 at 10:37:52 AM

child that can survive being hit at full-speed by a motorcycle

Oh god I think I killed that kid! Oh no, he's fine! *cocks gun* Time to fix that. When I hit things. I expect them to be dead!

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#4032: Apr 30th 2013 at 10:41:23 AM

You're ignoring the part where he lifted her bike and destroyed it.

That's an act of aggression towards Bulma. She was defending herself against the enraged, unstoppable monster child.

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#4033: Apr 30th 2013 at 10:42:28 AM

Whom she tried to run over.

And it's not like he was hard to see. He was carrying a fish larger than her car!

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#4034: Apr 30th 2013 at 10:45:01 AM

It doesn't matter that she accidentally ran him over. He was still an enraged, evidently-unkillable monster child behaving aggressively towards her. Should she just go, "Well, I did start this fight, so I'll just let the monster child eat me. I don't care about living."

She was still just defending herself against the monster child trying to kill her.

edited 30th Apr '13 10:45:40 AM by TobiasDrake

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#4035: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:08:25 AM

I gotta laugh at Oolong's background.

Gero was fine. I don't expect Goku to meet every RR member, and not everything had to do with frieza forever.

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#4036: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:16:06 AM

Nothing in the original Red Ribbon arc hinted at a mad scientist on the payroll. It's not just that Goku didn't run into Gero, it's that Gero wasn't written into the arc at all.

Re: Cybandroids. If I recall: 17, 18, and Gero were all effectively cyborgs, being created from humans as a base. Whereas 8, 16, 20, and probably the rest of 1-15, were androids.

...wait a sec. I might be wrong about Gero. Did the original Red Ribbon arc make mention of who made Eighter?

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#4037: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:18:44 AM

Either they made no mention of the name or it was something other than Gero.

Though it's still a reference to a mad scientist (and given the other people they employeed it's not that much of a stretch).

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#4038: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:19:28 AM

Never by name, but they did talk about the scientist on the R.R Army payroll.

[up][up]8 was not the only Android Goku met. He also destroyed the one that was protecting the inside of the tower.

edited 30th Apr '13 11:19:38 AM by theweirdKiddokun

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#4039: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:19:32 AM

Nothing in the original Red Ribbon arc hinted at a mad scientist on the payroll

Hrrrm

Yeah....

So....

Are we sure we are talking the same Red Ribbon Army?

edited 30th Apr '13 11:19:42 AM by CobraPrime

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#4040: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:22:19 AM

I agree with you. I forgot about Eight when I was writing that post, and remembered him as I was writing it. I don't blame you for not reading the rest of the post though.

edited 30th Apr '13 11:22:51 AM by Enlong

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#4041: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:22:27 AM

In the anime, we actually meet the doctor who created Android 8, and he is very decisively not Dr. Gero. Of course, this is only true in the anime. I believe there's also a mention of Dr. Gero destroying his first androids, though, which further distances him from the only possible connection to the Red Ribbon Army he could actually have, that of being Android 8's creator.

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nairoxev Since: Nov, 2011
#4042: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:23:31 AM

Yeah Octavious must have been created by someone.

Ok, so it is not Gero in the Anime's canon, but it still shows that the red ribbon army has a tendency to hire mad scientists. The only other thing we know about the army is that it is... and army, so if there is one mad scientist, there could be two or three or 50. I imagine most gave up on the army after it was stopped by a child, but Gero was more fanatical than most.

edited 30th Apr '13 11:25:16 AM by nairoxev

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#4043: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:23:36 AM

Did it say he destroyed 1-15, or jus that he considered them failures?

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#4044: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:27:39 AM

Failures I believe.

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#4045: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:28:33 AM

One can always reconcile the two with Dr. Flappe being Gero's mentor...

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4046: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:31:26 AM

...Didn't the Red Ribbon army have a colour theme name going? Red, Blue, Black etc.

I don't think Flappe or Gero are colours.

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#4047: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:34:50 AM

Not every single member had a color name.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4048: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:36:01 AM

I was pretty sure they did. I'm fairly certain about the officers. And Mercenary Tao doesn't count because he's a mercenary.

There was a Colonel Violet and a Colonel Silver, a General White and I think a few others.

edited 30th Apr '13 11:38:08 AM by unnoun

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#4049: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:37:08 AM

Metallic isn't much of a color either.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#4050: Apr 30th 2013 at 11:38:38 AM

[up] He was an android. He's as much of an officer as the vacuum cleaner or the cheese grater.

edited 30th Apr '13 11:41:56 AM by unnoun


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