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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#38351: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:17:21 AM

[up]Current Digimon writers: "What's that? Make Omnimon show up on the third episode and completely destroy all tension from the series because we can't move on from Our War Game? Can do!"

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#38352: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:26:53 AM

...Wow, that proves my point exactly. Glad I had the sense to stop watching Nostalgia Mon back when the adventure films where still a thing.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#38353: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:28:07 AM

I think Blue only ever won in 2 fights exactly: Goku beating Frieza before getting surprise attacked and Gogeta absolutely destroying Broly.

The latter is the only time delivered a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown and thats stretching it considering it's a fusion

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#38354: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:32:25 AM

[up][up]I still like Tamers, Frontier and Savers.

And the modern games do way more with the material.

I never watched the sequels to Adventure, though, and seeing the general reaction they tend to provoke, probably just dodged a bullet, if not an entire volley.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38355: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:33:22 AM

[up][up][up] The directors did go on record saying that the new series would be more focused on Action and spectacle than before. To its credit, the animation is great...every couple of episodes. But yea, its definitely not built on the character writing from the original at all.

YMMV on how well that is.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Dec 21st 2020 at 10:34:03 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#38356: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:45:14 AM

I know the original Digimon series has such low production values even the Animation Bump for important moments look like shit, but that's just throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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#38357: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:50:07 AM

I sort of want to make a top 5 list of first time SS1 reveals. Let's try

1. Goku (the original)
2. Future Trunks (the shock of there being another Super Saiyan)
3. Cabba (this is an interesting way of showing Vegeta's character development)
4. Vegeta (the Prince of all Saiyans is back!)
5. The kid Saiyans (probably this should be an honorable mention, but it gives a sense for the power creep during the time skip)

I'm probably missing a few people (for example, I don't have Gohan).

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38358: Dec 21st 2020 at 7:52:17 AM

[up][up]It was a conscious decision on their part though. But yea, its basically basically what Toei have been doing with Super lmao; a bunch of flashy moments but with no real buildup surrounding them, so they all feel flaccid.

But hey, Super has its fans despite that, so I'm positive this new Digimon Adventure will appeal to some people. But yea, the original is just too ingrained in my consciousness to accept the new series.

The animation is better, but that's pretty much all I'll give it.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Dec 21st 2020 at 10:52:28 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#38359: Dec 21st 2020 at 8:01:04 AM

Ophanimon as Bandai intended since they designed it, rather than yet another Holydramon appearance because Hurricane Touchdown, is likely a plus, but we don't know if that'll be the case.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38360: Dec 21st 2020 at 8:01:51 AM

The tie in Digivice toys for the show has confirmed that they're using Ophanimon this time for Tailmon's Ultimate.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#38361: Dec 21st 2020 at 8:03:02 AM

There's still a lot to love in Super, between the waffy episodes and a ton of interesting new characters.

And the "flash, no substance" argument is overblown: for every meaningless Call-Back (a lot centered around Vegeta, for some reason) we have have stuff like Goku vs Kefla, or the U6 Namekians vs Gohan and Piccolo.

And the franchise has always relied on being fun, simple and charming, with a lot of spectacle.

If anything, the biggest problem with Super (besides the production) is the same that has plagued Dragon Ball animation from Day One: really poor pacing.

The new Digimon anime...honestly, there literally is nothing to it far as I've seen.

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 21st 2020 at 1:03:56 PM

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#38362: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:08:05 AM

And it's Perfect Cell. Rip.

The legend has returned.
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#38363: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:10:17 AM

Damn, fourth place yet again. That must sting for cell

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#38364: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:11:01 AM

What the heck are UI and SSJ2 doing in the top 3. SSJ2 really doesn't have anything going for it other than its' debut scene.

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#38365: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:14:51 AM

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Maybe they felt the debut scene was enough to push it near the top.

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#38366: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:15:47 AM

I think they might be a little biased, given that Abridged ended on said debut scene. They also put Cell up this high. I'm curious how high they'll put UI.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 21st 2020 at 10:16:10 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38367: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:18:44 AM

I said before what it says about Super that only a few of its transformations are so low, so Ultra Insinct being this high up is pretty praiseworthy.

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#38368: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:20:45 AM

Toei Animation tends to treat most of their series poorly, but Dragon Quest Adventure of Dai, Wano Arc of One Piece, and most of their Pretty cure output has been treated well as of late.

Kinda amusing, TBH.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#38369: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:35:54 AM

Ultra Instinct was always going to be in the top 3 at least. Hell, I personally thought it was the only choice they'd make for number 2.

Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#38370: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:38:17 AM

[up]x6 I will say that based off of build up and first appearances I could see SSJ 2 being in the top 5 of any list..... if it wasn’t for all the other stuff surrounding it like the unoriginal design, being one of the quickest turns to uselessness in the series and just being straight up forgotten by Toriyama.

Edited by Pokesamus on Dec 21st 2020 at 9:38:50 AM

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#38371: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:39:26 AM

They stated that Perfect Cell was the number one best villain transformation, so we can definitely be sure that protagonist transformations will populate the entire Top 3. Super Saiyans 1 and 2 are guaranteed spots. So, yeah, Ultra Instinct makes sense for the third.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 21st 2020 at 9:39:56 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38372: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:50:29 AM

Ultra Instict deserves top spot for having its own theme song that accompanied each use.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#38373: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:56:08 AM

Ultra Instinct may be an iconic transformation, but Super Saiyan is what made transformations such a prominent shonen trope.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38374: Dec 21st 2020 at 9:59:32 AM

But does it have a theme song.

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