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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#38226: Dec 18th 2020 at 10:20:33 PM

Random thought: if the Oozaru was purple, would it be The Great Grape Ape?

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#38227: Dec 18th 2020 at 10:43:21 PM

[up] Funny enough, one of the scrapped elements of SCOOB! would've modernized him as a Mighty Glacier that used to be a precious chimp for Mystery Inc and Co's international quest.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Dec 18th 2020 at 1:45:01 PM

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#38228: Dec 18th 2020 at 10:45:39 PM

Wow he would have been the great ape.

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#38229: Dec 18th 2020 at 11:09:43 PM

I'm going to agree with the chorus and say the too three will be SS, Freeza and Cell. SS is beyond iconic, as is "this isnt my final form" Freeza.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#38230: Dec 19th 2020 at 8:21:35 AM

The issue of having Cell in a battle of attrition is that the combo of Freeza/Saiyan/Namekian is daunting. He will survive anything short of complete annihilation, he can regenerate from pretty much anything, and highly damaging attacks will make him stronger as he regenerates. He gets tired, true, but he HAS to be killed quickly.

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#38231: Dec 19th 2020 at 9:01:19 AM

Now I'm just remembering that first Dragonball opening where the color scheme was all off, and the Oozaru was purple (I guess it's supposed to be grey there but still...).

Edited by jjjj2 on Dec 19th 2020 at 12:21:04 PM

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#38232: Dec 19th 2020 at 9:04:05 AM

Number #6: it's the transformation that made Vegeta cry first time in his life, Freeza's 4th Form. Also, no Golden Freeza in the list.

Edited by jouXIII on Dec 19th 2020 at 7:14:42 PM

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Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#38233: Dec 19th 2020 at 9:15:54 AM

Called that form not being as high as people thought. And the honorable mentions discussion is going to be fun this time I imagine.

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#38234: Dec 19th 2020 at 9:17:30 AM

Tell Vegeta....like a little bitch.

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#38235: Dec 19th 2020 at 9:24:02 AM

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#38236: Dec 19th 2020 at 9:26:28 AM

Surprised Perfect Cell is above Final Form Frieza. But I understand the reasoning that Full Power Frieza hurts what made the form work and that it doesn't have the same kind of narrative buildup Cell's quest to get perfect did.

Golden Frieza not being on the list makes sense. While the Tournament of Power did a whole lot to rehabilitate the form and make it look impressive again, it's undeniable its first impression was an underwhelming one.

Edited by Moth13 on Dec 19th 2020 at 12:33:27 PM

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#38237: Dec 19th 2020 at 9:31:20 AM

BTW, because Lani brought it up and it is an impressive sequence, here's the clip of Freeza turning Golden for the first time in the Super anime:

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#38238: Dec 19th 2020 at 10:11:19 AM

Golden Frieza is also literally just a palette swap of Frieza, so it has that same problem as Super Saiyan Blue being a palette swap of Super Saiyan 1. Aesthetically, Golden Frieza isn't very impressive; especially when it has to share franchise space with the much more visually distinctive Final Form Cooler.

It makes sense for Perfect Cell to beat Final Form Frieza because Cell's transformations had a lot of narrative weight to them. Cell made transforming an actual part of the story much moreso than any other character, even the Saiyans. Unlocking a Super Saiyan form is often a key moment in a character's development, but Cell achieving Perfection was literally a quest, with clearly marked objectives he had to complete while the protagonists race to stop him from achieving them and transforming.

Cell's transformations became the actual plot of the story for a chunk of his arc, something that even Majin Buu can't really claim as his absorptions were spur of the moment reactions to increasingly powerful adversaries. I don't expect it to beat out Super Saiyan 1, but I'll be surprised if Perfect Cell doesn't make Top Three.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 19th 2020 at 10:11:44 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#38239: Dec 19th 2020 at 10:23:39 AM

Golden Freeza has a different facial structure, differently shaped crystals (incluiding losing the shoulder ones), is slighty taller and bulkier, has pants...

It is pretty much Freeza going Super Saiyan in terms of design.

Cooler meanwhile disregards the "less is more" approach.

Edited by Eriorguez on Dec 19th 2020 at 7:24:46 PM

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#38240: Dec 19th 2020 at 10:34:04 AM

I'm okay with Cell beating Freeza. And obviously SSJ1 is gonna be #1. But I find the idea of placing anything else is the top three to be a strange one. Maybe knock him down to #4 because 100% power isn't as good, but I don't see how that can bring him all the way down to #6.

Edited by Gilphon on Dec 19th 2020 at 1:34:24 PM

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#38241: Dec 19th 2020 at 10:39:48 AM

And I do like how Golden Freeza is basically Freeza going "anything you can do, I can do better"

Alongside how gaudy the form looks, it really fits with how egomaniacal and vain the guy is.

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#38243: Dec 19th 2020 at 4:25:03 PM

I wonder what it says about Modern Dragon Ball that only one of its transformations are gonna make the top 5, and only two of them are featured in the list overall.

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#38244: Dec 19th 2020 at 4:29:47 PM

Kale and S Broly were both mentioned as positive reasons why Legendary Super Saiyan made it on the list, and that's 2/3 of the users of the form, with the first user not even being canon. It's more of a Super transformation than a Z transformation nowadays.

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#38245: Dec 19th 2020 at 4:36:23 PM

[up][up] There's just less transformations in Super. In particular, many of the arc villains (Beerus/Hit/Jiren) don't have a transformation.

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#38246: Dec 19th 2020 at 5:12:02 PM

Only Ultra Instict and Rosé can really be said to have been introduced in Super, both God and Blue are still Z-era transformations, as is Golden Freeza.

I guess you could count the Wrathful State, but that was already mentioned, and it is technically a variation of the Oozaru form

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#38247: Dec 19th 2020 at 5:41:33 PM

Battle of Gods and Resurrection F might have Z in the title, but they belong to the Super era much more than the Z era from decades ago.

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#38248: Dec 19th 2020 at 5:43:29 PM

If they have "Z" in the title, they're Z-era films.

It's a pretty cut-and-dry thing.

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#38249: Dec 19th 2020 at 5:45:29 PM

So should we break out the duelling pistols?

Or maybe the Duel Disks?tongue

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#38250: Dec 19th 2020 at 5:48:05 PM

There's a reason I said Modern Dragon Ball, and not "Z". When I say modern, I mean pretty much everything from Battle of Gods onward.

@Pushover: The significance of the form is from the original Broly though. He's progenitor of the form, and its initial debut was in the OG era Dragon Ball. Its not a Modern form at all even if its been reinterpreted as such.

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