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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#38151: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:29:59 PM

[up][up]That transformation only has one victory though, and it required help.

Plus, it can be easily achieved, but requires the dragon balls, or a dead Old Kai to reverse. Seems like too much trouble to me.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#38152: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:31:16 PM

Super introduced the Super Saiyan Rangers.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#38153: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:32:13 PM

[up][up]But it's the ultimate strategy! You can't kill me if I'm already dead! Headtap.gif.

Edited by fredhot16 on Dec 17th 2020 at 12:32:48 PM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38154: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:33:01 PM

Well technically you can, and you even get a new form. You ascend from (dead) to (nonexistent).

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#38155: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:34:34 PM

[up]Even better! At worst, it's an infinite battle, no victory or defeat, and at best, the enemy would have to concede or die themselves!

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38156: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:47:08 PM

Considering the logic, randomness wonders if you can directly kill the little cloud spirits.

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#38157: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:50:13 PM

Explicitly, yes. It's brought up in the Buu arc that if you kill a dead person, they suffer Cessation of Existence.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 17th 2020 at 12:52:14 PM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#38158: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:51:55 PM

"If you kill a dead person", what a wonderful sentence [lol]

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#38159: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:52:42 PM

[lol] It's true, though! Since Vegeta uses one of Baba's One-Time-Only 24 Hours on Earth periods to come back and help Goku fight Buu, it's noted that he's fighting under those stakes. Since he's still technically dead, if Buu kills him again, his existence will be deleted entirely.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#38160: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:52:57 PM

People die when they're killed.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Dec 17th 2020 at 3:54:04 PM

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#38161: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:53:38 PM

Yeah, but that applied to Vegeta because he was a dead person possessing his own body. The only time we've ever seen just a straight-up spirit with no body get killed was when Beerus Hakaied the ghost of Dr. Mashirito.

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#38162: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:53:42 PM

[up][up]And are erased when they are double killed!

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 17th 2020 at 5:53:56 PM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38163: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:54:59 PM

I mean, assumptions aside, I only ever thought that referred to the dead who have bodies...but it makes sense.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#38164: Dec 17th 2020 at 12:56:16 PM

"If you kill a dead person", what a wonderful sentence

This is the type of shit that I live for in Anime.

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#38165: Dec 17th 2020 at 1:08:40 PM

That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#38167: Dec 17th 2020 at 1:11:26 PM

Even an Elder Kai can do it!

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terumokou Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object from In a bamboo forest full of bunnies, California Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
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#38168: Dec 17th 2020 at 1:49:18 PM

But not a King Kai!

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#38169: Dec 17th 2020 at 3:26:57 PM

I'm pretty sure if Ultra Instinct makes it in, it will be on the merits of its build-up form and Sign fights, moreso than the form itself, which basically shows up only for PART of the Jiren fight.

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#38170: Dec 17th 2020 at 4:43:23 PM

who needs to fear death when you have the dragonballs!

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#38171: Dec 17th 2020 at 7:44:29 PM

Everyone who's still weak enough to need to be revived by the Dragonballs.

Or you know, the ones who've already been revived by the Dragonballs and can't get a second on unless the team travels all the way to Namek.

Which at this point, is literally nearly everyone on earth.

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#38172: Dec 17th 2020 at 8:21:21 PM

Well, no, everyone on Earth was revived using Porunga, so Shenron should still be good to bring them back.

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#38173: Dec 17th 2020 at 9:29:31 PM

I'm pretty sure if Ultra Instinct makes it in, it will be on the merits of its build-up form and Sign fights, moreso than the form itself, which basically shows up only for PART of the Jiren fight.

It also sees usage in the Moro arc, which features Goku training under a new mentor to master the form and using it to great effect against the arc's villain. If Ultra Instinct makes it in, the Moro arc will probably have a lot to do with why.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#38174: Dec 17th 2020 at 10:07:13 PM

[up][up]

Except for the ones who were revived after being killed by Piccolo Daimou....and then Cell....and then Vegeta.

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jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#38175: Dec 18th 2020 at 9:07:24 AM

Number #7: it's Super Dee Duper Saiyan the Super Saiyan 3.

Edited by jouXIII on Dec 18th 2020 at 7:17:12 PM

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