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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#38026: Dec 2nd 2020 at 8:35:59 AM

wild mass guessAbridged Buu would break the 4th Wall and strip Popo of his memetic powers.

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#38027: Dec 2nd 2020 at 8:41:16 AM

I do like the idea of Popo being Majin Buu, but it would take so much rewriting and revising to try and make something like that work. Much simpler to just have Popo LOLBYE because Earth is screwed.

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#38028: Dec 2nd 2020 at 9:55:54 AM

I wasn't saying Popo was Buu. I was saying that Super Buu absorbs him during his rampage on Super Kami Dende's lookout and Popo was very high at the time. In my hypothetical scenario he finally comes down from his high when Vegeta pulls Fat Buu out of Super Buu and at that point he decides to assert himself.

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#38029: Dec 2nd 2020 at 9:56:51 AM

> wild mass guessAbridged Buu would break the 4th Wall and strip Popo of his memetic powers.

And then Popo proceeds to kill him anyway

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#38030: Dec 6th 2020 at 7:52:23 PM

A week late but this DB Cember is top 12 Transformations. Sooo anyone hedging bets that Super Saiyan is not #1?

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#38031: Dec 6th 2020 at 8:12:42 PM

Appearance-wise, my favorite is Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken, and presentation-wise, my favorite is Ultra Instinct.

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#38032: Dec 6th 2020 at 8:12:56 PM

Do they mean the top forms or the top transformation scenes?

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#38033: Dec 6th 2020 at 8:14:24 PM

That's a good point. Super Saiyan 2 would probably rank near the bottom of the first list while Gohan going Super Saiyan 2 would be near the top of the second list.

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#38034: Dec 6th 2020 at 9:50:01 PM

If we're talking transformation, Imma be the hipster and say nothing has Super Saiyan Rosé beat.

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#38035: Dec 12th 2020 at 12:16:34 PM

Basically stating what goes in the list. And no fusion and Kaio-ken. Or Bulma's top 12 outfits either, to Lani's chagrin.

Edited by terumokou on Dec 12th 2020 at 2:03:47 AM

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BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#38036: Dec 12th 2020 at 2:01:23 PM

This is another one where your more excited to hear about the runners up than the first prize, because we all know the Number One spot is going to Bad Launch.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#38037: Dec 12th 2020 at 2:19:14 PM

The video explains that they mean top forms, and not top transformation scenes, ie they're counting the form you transform into, and not the transformation itself. So the Super Saiyan form is going to be on the list, instead of Goku transforming to fight Freeza, or Future Trunks transforming after Future Gohan dies. That said, those moments are going to be taken into consideration when it comes to how high a form ranks on the list.

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#38038: Dec 12th 2020 at 3:10:59 PM

If not for the "how cool was its debut scene" category, I think SS2 would be near the bottom. With that category though, I'm expecting it to be mid-tier.

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#38039: Dec 12th 2020 at 3:20:58 PM

You would think 3 would be in the bottom considering how unreliable the form is

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#38040: Dec 12th 2020 at 3:21:00 PM

I'm more curious about which Super Saiyan forms don't make the list, since there's too many of them to add without them dominating the countdown.

BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#38041: Dec 12th 2020 at 3:25:51 PM

"Did it meaningfully affect that story?" and "How cool was it when we first saw the transformation happen?" are going to be what saves SSJ2... and probably what puts SSJ3 at the bottom.

Edited by BOOXMOWO on Dec 12th 2020 at 7:26:09 AM

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#38042: Dec 12th 2020 at 3:26:34 PM

#LetLaniDoTheTop12BulmaOutfits

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 12th 2020 at 8:27:48 AM

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#38043: Dec 12th 2020 at 3:28:25 PM

https://twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/1337873689971396608?s=20

Bulma's Top 12 Outfits idea might be gaining traction.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#38044: Dec 12th 2020 at 3:31:07 PM

With only 12, I wonder how many Freeza transformations we're gonna get. He had 3 of them. Then there's Cell, who had 2. Then there's all the Buu stuff. Oh, great ape is gonna be there somewhere.

Edited by WillKeaton on Dec 12th 2020 at 4:31:16 AM

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#38045: Dec 12th 2020 at 4:01:46 PM

Great Ape's underrated, but that's probably because Super Saiyan 4 is my favorite form of Super Saiyan.

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#38046: Dec 12th 2020 at 5:41:27 PM

I think Red and Blue are going to be thrown together into a single spot.

A shame really because Red has a cool design by making Goku/Vegeta seem a lot more slimmer but then we had to get Blue...

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#38047: Dec 12th 2020 at 6:01:01 PM

Number 1 is going to be the OG Super Saiyan, I can feel it.

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#38048: Dec 12th 2020 at 6:07:12 PM

I appreciate that they separate how effective a transformation is in theory versus in practice. In theory, Super Saiyan 3 is amazing. Four times Super Saiyan 2?! Holy fuck!

In practice, nobody's ever won a fight using the form. Gotenks got screwed out of his Fusion, Goku discovered at the worst possible time that the form bleeds ki faster than you can even power up, and Beerus made it So Last Season before it ever even got a season to shine in. Super Saiyan 3 wasn't overshadowed by later forms; it has only ever been terrible.

Super Saiyan 3 looks ridiculous, is amazing, and is actually a garbage form whose intense drawbacks far outstrip the benefits of its extreme power output.

I will be surprised if Super Saiyan 3 makes this list.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 12th 2020 at 6:08:18 AM

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#38049: Dec 12th 2020 at 6:17:09 PM

I doubt Red and Blue will be mashed together, but I do think they'll be close.

On one hand, Red had a fantastic build up and transformation scene to it, particularly in the TV version...but the track record is bad.

While the new powerup turning off in the middle of the fight was great on narrative grounds, it means the only serious fight it had ended with defeat and from them on it's only used as a warm up before Blue gets deployed.

On the other hand, Blue's first appearance was very underwhelming (as Taka said, lots of fanfare, little actual meat), but it being the top transformation for the foreseable future means it actually has decent screentime and kill count.

[up]Are they counting the movies? Because SSJ 3 does have a win under its belt, specifically Hirudegarn.

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 12th 2020 at 11:18:07 AM

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#38050: Dec 12th 2020 at 6:46:22 PM

Kid Goku also struggles to mantain SSJ 3 in kid form and then SSJ 4 makes it obsolete

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