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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3776: Mar 29th 2013 at 9:38:00 PM

No one's arguing the pro side because there's no point to it. You'll say they're wrong, regardless, and the ensuing argument wouldn't even be fun.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3777: Mar 29th 2013 at 9:39:46 PM

Canon really isn't that hard a concept to wrap one's head around. It's the author's original story (Barring anything officially declared non-canon due to being a mistake or embarassment, but it's rare for an author to do that) and any supplemental material they have declared canon.

The movies, GT, and anime filler are not canon, even if they fit into the story without contradicting things. That isn't to say they're unrecognized, or that anyone pretends they don't exist. They're just side stories that will never be referenced in the main story (Obviously because it's done).

Right now, the only thing really open for debate is if Toriyama has declared Battle of the Gods canon, which I don't believe he has.

edited 29th Mar '13 9:42:06 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#3778: Mar 29th 2013 at 9:47:09 PM

What is Bardock, in this analogy?

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3779: Mar 29th 2013 at 9:50:54 PM

He's in Past!Limbo. Just kinda... being there... maybe.
So, in that analogy, he's likely the Ghost of Christmas Past... in a universe where Scrooge's episode may have possibly been a hallucination.

edited 29th Mar '13 9:52:00 PM by Zeromaeus

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3780: Mar 29th 2013 at 9:52:32 PM

Bardock is weird. Canon Immigrant, I guess.

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#3781: Mar 29th 2013 at 9:53:08 PM

[up][up][up]The analogy with the Bible? Enoch, maybe? Mentioned briefly in the canon, but is further explored in non-canon materials.

edited 29th Mar '13 9:53:30 PM by stingerbrg

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#3782: Mar 29th 2013 at 9:56:25 PM

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3783: Mar 29th 2013 at 11:09:00 PM

Thank you all for missing my point. The point was, so what? What does it matter how many people are on each side?

And Saya, that's right, he doesn't say it outright. Unlike what you said earlier. Saying he clearly considers it part of the story is pretty baseless.

And once again, he's not the main scriptwriter. He didn't invent Super Saiyan God and Hakaishin, but he redesigned them. The basic outline for the movie was already written before he came on board, we know this because we know he changes things (such as ditching SSG's cloak, turning Bills from being a cat into a lizard, removing the plot about Bills infecting people with evil, adding gags).

The Bible analogy is pretty spot-on.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3784: Mar 29th 2013 at 11:14:45 PM

...Changing Bills from a cat to a lizard? He looks like an Anubis-y cat thing to me still...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3785: Mar 29th 2013 at 11:20:22 PM

Lizard into a cat, is what I mean. We haven't seen the lizard concept yet though.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3786: Mar 29th 2013 at 11:34:35 PM

His eyes did look pretty chameleon-y.

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Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#3787: Mar 30th 2013 at 1:39:03 AM

What is the schedule here? When can we expect the next episode?

Can't you have this canon fight in the DBZ thread on the anime board? You've been doing it for three pages.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3788: Mar 30th 2013 at 1:40:06 AM

Well considering we just got an episode, obviously it's going to be a few months to the next one.

Even more obviously, they wouldn't have a date for it.

edited 30th Mar '13 1:40:20 AM by Saiga

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#3789: Mar 30th 2013 at 1:44:09 AM

No set schedule at all then eh?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3790: Mar 30th 2013 at 1:54:32 AM

They don't want a schedule because then it adds unnecessary stress and would just make the complaints worse.

Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#3791: Mar 30th 2013 at 2:00:17 AM

Ah okay.

Next movie is Return of Cooler. I wonder how that is gonna go.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3792: Mar 30th 2013 at 8:46:24 AM

Probably make fun of Vegeta showing up out of nowhere, for sure.

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#3793: Mar 30th 2013 at 8:55:45 AM

I wonder if they could combine that with Vegea's usual gag of mocking the movie's out-of-continuity status.

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#3795: Mar 31st 2013 at 6:24:27 AM

"Usual"? He's done that in one movie. Once is not a pattern.

edited 31st Mar '13 6:24:55 AM by TobiasDrake

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#3796: Mar 31st 2013 at 12:34:56 PM

So yeah here's a thing.

edited 31st Mar '13 12:35:41 PM by Spirit

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#3797: Apr 1st 2013 at 12:37:26 AM

I thought Return of Cooler was the only movie that could fit in the timeline in any way. I mean it's not canon, but still the timeline fits and it could have happened when it did.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3798: Apr 1st 2013 at 10:47:43 AM

Return of Cooler doesn't have any continuity issues as far as I can tell, aside from relying on the existence of the first Cooler movie (Which itself cannot fit in the timeline).

And it isn't the only movie that can fit. Super Android 13, The Legendary Super Saiyan, Bojack Unbound, Broly: Second Coming, and Bio-Broly can all fit, I believe. Unless I've made a mistake. As can Wrath of the Dragon, since there's nothing after it for it to contradict anyway (Aside from the distant finale of Z, which it doesn't contradict anyway).

edited 1st Apr '13 10:48:26 AM by Anomalocaris20

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#3799: Apr 1st 2013 at 10:49:12 AM

wild mass guessEvery movie exists in an alternate universe brought on by time travel.

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#3800: Apr 1st 2013 at 11:12:00 AM

With DBZ movies the question isn't whether they are canon, it's "How non-canon are they?" Personally I think Tree of Might tops the scale as it needs Goku to both know the Spirit Bomb and not know what a Saiyan is.


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