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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37826: Jul 21st 2020 at 4:02:43 PM

Saiya-girl was anime only apparently.

It's what I'd have liked for her to do, but Videl is just another great concept that got dropped.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#37827: Jul 21st 2020 at 4:26:16 PM

It kind of irks me that Videl and Gohan were dropped when, frankly, it feels like Toriyama wants to go back to his gag manga days and the Great Saiyaman and Saiyawoman would be perfect for that.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#37828: Jul 21st 2020 at 4:36:20 PM

It feels like both wants to go back to that, but won't fully commit to it either and falls back into old patterns given the chance.

I wonder if the Buu Saga would have been a tighter ship if he'd had his old editor dictating things again.

Then again, that's what led to Cell being so schizophrenic too, so maybe that's not a good thing.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#37829: Jul 21st 2020 at 6:24:58 PM

"Dictating" - I mean, he was his former editor at the time. It wasn't editorial mandates making him schizophrenic with the Androids, it was the feedback of a peer.

Unless you mean the stuff with Cell's forms in which case... honestly I'm pretty okay with that. Semi-Perfect Cell is stupid and seeking perfection provides him with much more of an arc.

Edited by Larkmarn on Jul 21st 2020 at 9:28:10 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#37830: Jul 21st 2020 at 6:43:05 PM

Right, then I'll somewhat amend my statement: So if Toriyama's old editor was giving him feedback on Buu the same way he did the Android/Cell Arc.

Would we have seen Buu get kicked out for a completely new and more powerful villain?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#37831: Jul 21st 2020 at 6:44:30 PM

Buu went through more forms and changes than Cell did, I don't know what you're talking about.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#37832: Jul 21st 2020 at 7:01:10 PM

[up]I will said Buu was intersting in that not all changes were positive and move when tie plot dictated, he was a least more entretaing than cell.

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#37833: Jul 21st 2020 at 7:28:15 PM

Fat Buu and Kid Buu were.

Super Buu is just...pink Cell, pretty much.

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#37834: Jul 21st 2020 at 7:37:38 PM

Super Buu at least still had a childish side unlike Cell, I loved him drinking a sundae and reading a magazine to mock Gotenks and his little happy dance when he thinks that he's absorbed Vegetto.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#37835: Jul 21st 2020 at 7:46:57 PM

Also he use more strategy than cell, with leaving a part of himself in the ground after the fusion run off to absorve gohan was a pretty damn good strategy.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#37836: Jul 21st 2020 at 7:55:12 PM

@The Tourmament Fight:

I always thought it was a fun scene parallel, Gohan / Videl watching Videl / Gohan get tortured in the ring, and being the only ones to try and jump in and try to stop the brutality (well, Krillin tries to jump in and save Gohan in the anime), while the others - particularly Goku - both do nothing and specifically rein them in.

Really makes everyone look like an asshole. And makes Shin look like a whole idiot in retrospect.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 21st 2020 at 7:56:36 AM

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#37837: Jul 21st 2020 at 7:59:36 PM

I wanted to see what they would do with Videl.

Same.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#37838: Jul 21st 2020 at 8:16:45 PM

his little happy dance when he thinks that he's absorbed Vegetto.

That dance is spectacular. I'll brook no debate on this.

[up][up] It really does make them look like assholes, even knowing that Gohan would be alright

I know shitting on Shin is fashionable now, and he did screw up when he didn't pay enough attention to what was going on on Earth, but to be fair, it wasn't his fault that Buu woke up. The plan was simple: let Gohan get drained, follow the drainers to Babidi, and then beat up Babidi. Did he badly miscalculate in a number of places (Gohan's power, as well as Dabura being there? Yeah, you bet your ass he did.

But none of that would have mattered if they'd just fought as a team and swept the place instead on insisting on one on one fights, to say nothing of Vegeta and Goku prioritizing their grudge match at the vital moment.

The plan was flawed, but could have still worked.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#37839: Jul 21st 2020 at 8:41:37 PM

[up]Hell babidi also miscaculated the power earth have in fact, they were genuitly nervious about the fact the Z-warriors could kill them.

Which it was hilarious, see the new villians be so weak.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37840: Jul 21st 2020 at 9:07:31 PM

Super Boo isn't Cell.

Super Boo (Gotenks Absorbed) is basically Cell.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#37841: Jul 21st 2020 at 9:26:52 PM

[up]Evil boo(after absorving fat buu) is prettu much cell at first, them he become more and more after absorving more people, by the time he absorve piccoro and gothems he do act like cell, having coherent toughs and conversation and even strategy.

but in general I like boo because the sheer range of technique he have at hand, it feel very unconvencional at times.

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Medigo03 Since: Sep, 2013
#37842: Jul 22nd 2020 at 3:11:03 AM

Normal Super Buu is still more primal and violent than Cell seemed to be. (But he did have the foresight to prepare for Gohan and the ability to sense his power across the universe)

Once he absorbs people he does become more like Cell, but I did enjoy how the anime also added mental abuse to his repertoire when he battled Gohan.

Also he still had his childish outbursts.

Edited by Medigo03 on Jul 22nd 2020 at 3:11:28 AM

HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#37843: Jul 22nd 2020 at 4:58:27 AM

I heard there used to be an abridged version of this show. I made a thread about it.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#37845: Aug 26th 2020 at 10:03:19 AM

https://twitter.com/Lanipator/status/1298666291281178625

The thing we all wanted to hear (no, not a revival, not THAT one).

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#37846: Aug 26th 2020 at 10:07:45 AM

loud squeeing

Edited by HailMuffins on Aug 26th 2020 at 2:07:57 PM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#37847: Aug 26th 2020 at 12:14:21 PM

I will admit, that's one of the main scenes I wanted to see them tackle.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#37848: Aug 26th 2020 at 12:14:58 PM

Oh that's great. Bit more of Lani's actual voice than his Vegeta voice but I could buy that TFS Vegeta is always forcing his voice and actually sounds like Lani himself when calm. [lol]

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Disasturbator
#37849: Aug 26th 2020 at 12:15:03 PM

Which scene is it?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#37850: Aug 26th 2020 at 12:18:33 PM

Vegeta's sacrifice

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