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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37601: Mar 8th 2020 at 12:20:47 PM

Yeah, but...it shouldn't do that.

It should disappear before it gets to him, shouldn't it?

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#37602: Mar 8th 2020 at 12:22:48 PM

[up][up]Yes, but an after image is created by having a person move fast and creating the image in a place where they have already been.

Edited by WillKeaton on Mar 8th 2020 at 1:30:00 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37603: Mar 8th 2020 at 12:26:15 PM

I guess. I suppose one that keeps going instead of just staying in one place is useful.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37604: Mar 8th 2020 at 12:32:08 PM

Ya know, that would've been a really good ability combination for Kakarrot to combine the after image with IT in order to make it do that.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37605: Mar 8th 2020 at 12:50:46 PM

Yeah. Shame it's an anime only trick.

Although I doubt it would have worked in Jiren. The whole point is that literally nothing but being physically stronger than him would have worked.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#37606: Mar 9th 2020 at 4:05:10 AM

Sounds kind of similar to what Hit tried to do with his temporal pocket dimension, and Jiren figured that out real quick. It's easy to forget, but Jiren is canonically a fighting genius, the same way that Goku is. He doesn't use it often because he doesn't care to adapt to most abilities when he can usually just overpower it.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#37607: Mar 9th 2020 at 4:11:29 AM

Should've brought Monster Rabbit and turned him into a carrot.

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#37608: Mar 9th 2020 at 4:23:02 AM

Remember Vegetto, the World's Strongest Candy?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37609: Mar 9th 2020 at 5:00:15 AM

Of course it's an anime only trick...when has Karrot ever even used the after image tech since the 2nd half started?

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#37610: Mar 9th 2020 at 5:16:22 AM

The fight against Freeza, I think.

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#37611: Mar 9th 2020 at 6:59:38 AM

The anime likes to keep old techniques around, even if it doesn't make sense. In this regard, the proliferation of ki sensing made the Afterimage totally useless. "Suddenly, Goku doesn't have a ki signature; instead, his ki signature is coming from over there!" Gee, I wonder why that could be.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#37612: Mar 9th 2020 at 8:38:15 AM

Is that a thing that actually happens in the show?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37613: Mar 9th 2020 at 10:12:29 AM

Yeah. Unless you can somehow give off a fake Ki signature, After Image doesn't mean much.

Although I do wonder if making it so everyone can sense ki was a good idea.

We've seen how not having Ki to sense can hamper fighters during the initial Androids arc.

Now throw old techniques like the After Image in there and you have a very different type of fight.

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Zarastro Since: Sep, 2010
#37614: Mar 9th 2020 at 11:27:50 AM

How good of a father was canon Mr. Satan to Videl? I honestly dont remember much of their interaction.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#37615: Mar 9th 2020 at 11:30:52 AM

I remember when Videl was up against Spopovich, Satan was super confident that she would win the fight with little to no effort, so I can say that, independent of anything else, he did have faith in her as a martial artist. Either that or Spopovich was a really terrible fighter.

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#37616: Mar 9th 2020 at 11:37:44 AM

I remember when Videl was up against Spopovich, Satan was super confident that she would win the fight with little to no effort, so I can say that, independent of anything else, he did have faith in her as a martial artist. Either that or Spopovich was a really terrible fighter.

IIRC, Mr. Satan fought and defeated Spopovich in the 24th Tenkaichi Budokai. That's what the whole Videl Torture Porn sequence was about; Spopovich using his Babidi-given power to gratuitously brutalize Videl long after the match's outcome had been settled was about hurting Mr. Satan. Spopovich was following a time-honored tradition of hack villains: inflicting violence upon a woman because he's mad at an important man in her life.

So, a little from column A and a little from column B. Mr. Satan had personally fought and defeated Spopovich, so he had a fair estimate of how strong Spopovich was supposed to be. And he believed that his daughter was tough enough to wreck Spopovich's shit.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 9th 2020 at 12:42:08 PM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37617: Mar 9th 2020 at 12:11:44 PM

He's a doting father...

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#37618: Mar 9th 2020 at 12:12:27 PM

and he's already better then Goku!

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#37619: Mar 9th 2020 at 12:55:08 PM

Huh, I didn't realize that Satan did with Videl exactly what Goku did with Gohan in the Cell Games.

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Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37620: Mar 9th 2020 at 1:01:30 PM

Well, kinda. Satan thought Spopovich was a chump and Videl was down to fight (given she, y'know, entered the tournament willingly) so he was like "what could go wrong". Goku just kinda didn't realize his son wasn't as into fighting as he was, and knew he himself was incapable of beating Cell, meaning while he knew Gohan was strong enough he also knew Cell was an actual threat and didn't really get Gohan's consent on the whole thing.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37621: Mar 9th 2020 at 1:11:16 PM

[up][up]He didn't.

It's nonsense to even compare those 2 situations.

She was in the tournament to begin with, Satan had nothing to do with anything that happened during.

He heard the Spopovich was fighting Videl and just thought she could handle him, which he was totally right about.

No one knew he was contextually immortal.

Edited by randomness4 on Mar 9th 2020 at 1:13:14 AM

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Zarastro Since: Sep, 2010
#37622: Mar 9th 2020 at 1:18:03 PM

[up] Right, she did break his neck (or should have) at one point.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37623: Mar 9th 2020 at 1:18:50 PM

Also, Gohan once theorized that Satan knew Videl was stronger than him, so it makes total sense he never expected Spopovitch to be a threat to her.

It took him gaining Supernatural powers to prove him wrong.

We rarely see it, but Mr. Satan, as far as non Ki using Martial Artists go, is probably pretty on the ball in his judgements.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#37624: Mar 9th 2020 at 2:26:37 PM

Yeah, Videl was entirely capable of handling Spopovich, the only reason she lost was because of Babidi.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#37625: Mar 9th 2020 at 2:32:28 PM

Hey, how did Babidi died again? I forgot, did Fat Buu eat her?

Edited by HailMuffins on Mar 9th 2020 at 6:32:38 AM


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