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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#3701: Mar 28th 2013 at 7:05:28 PM

Vegeta was bored, but he also vastly overestimated how well he'd fare against Perfect Cell.

It can be both things.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#3702: Mar 28th 2013 at 7:06:07 PM

Is there a reason Trunks bothered with the sword to begin with? I mean, he's already the third most powerful being in the world in his future, and the gap between him and the next two is so great that a dinky bit of sharp metal isn't going to make a difference?

Did he just practice with the sword to practice it on Frieza? Did he just think it was cool?

Also, at some points during this most recent episode I almost thought they were going to do a MGR:R reference, before I remembered Lani apparently hates it.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#3703: Mar 28th 2013 at 7:07:11 PM

[up]I have no in-universe idea. Out-of-universe, I think this was at the point where Toriyama was being forced to continue the story past his original plan and was just making it up as he went.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3704: Mar 28th 2013 at 7:08:29 PM

MGR:R?

And I wonder who made that sword.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3705: Mar 28th 2013 at 7:11:28 PM

[up][up][up] Well he was outmatched against the Androids and was probably just using everything he could to survive.

Maybe fighting with a sword instead of his fists was influenced by his mentor losing an arm to the Androids.

The out-of-universe answer is that is was a stylish way to quickly kill Freeza.

edited 28th Mar '13 7:11:54 PM by Saiga

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#3706: Mar 28th 2013 at 7:12:12 PM

[up][up] Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance

[up][up][up][up] Why not have a weapon? He demonstrates a nice balance of using it alongside ki until no. 18 breaks the sword.

edited 28th Mar '13 7:12:27 PM by Enlong

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3707: Mar 28th 2013 at 7:24:40 PM

I wonder how the Trunks in Super Android 13 has a sword. Did he repair it in noncanon land or something?

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#3708: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:10:07 PM

[up]The movies aren't canon bro, don't try to make sense of them.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#3709: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:15:59 PM

[up]The last 2 DBZ movies ARE canon (the Hildegarn one and Battle of Gods).

edited 28th Mar '13 8:16:13 PM by nomuru2d

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3710: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:34:44 PM

[up] How the fuck did you get that? Please stop spreading rumours.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3711: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:37:02 PM

I know they're not canon, I'm just wondering where he got the sword within the context of the movie.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3712: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:37:29 PM

[up] Since it's non-canon land... did it ever break to begin with? ~spooky music~

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#3713: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:38:41 PM

Well, the Hildegarn one explains where Trunks gets his sword from, and Battle of Gods is declared officially canon by Toei.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3714: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:39:28 PM

Stooooooooop the rumours.

Trunks can't have gotten his sword that way, because Movie 13 doesn't happen in the timeline where the Androids destroyed everything. Even if Movie 13 explained that, it doesn't make it canon.

And no, nothing has ever been said about this new movie being canon. There is no such thing as official canon.

edited 28th Mar '13 8:40:57 PM by Saiga

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3715: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:40:29 PM

They were never declared canon, Toriyama just had more involvement with Battle of the Gods than in most films. Don't confuse that with being canon.

Though, I remember someone posed an interesting theory that the whole Hoi-Hirudegarn-Tapion thing happened in Trunks's timeline, but ended with Tapion being sacrificially killed like he asked while imprisoning Hirudegarn, rather than Hirudegarn breaking free and getting Dragon Fisted into pulp. That would eliminate the issue of a powerful kaiju too strong to be killed by the survivors as well as leave Tapion's sword for Trunks to use.

Also, Trunks: Expert Hypocrite:

edited 28th Mar '13 8:44:30 PM by Anomalocaris20

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#3716: Mar 28th 2013 at 8:41:15 PM

[up]Since you asked, Tapion gives Trunks his sword at the end of the movie.

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#3717: Mar 28th 2013 at 10:47:53 PM

There is no such thing as official canon.

Wait wait wait. The outsider is confused again. How can some things be considered canon and non-canon if there is no official canon?

...
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3718: Mar 28th 2013 at 10:49:45 PM

By going by the definition of canon, the authentic works of the original author or whatever it is.

Basically, the manga.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#3719: Mar 28th 2013 at 11:18:58 PM

Thats rather bad definition since Toriyama IS involved with character designs and some writings in some movies...

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3720: Mar 28th 2013 at 11:19:27 PM

Fun Fact: Toriyama designed GT Vegeta, moustache and all.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3721: Mar 28th 2013 at 11:19:27 PM

[up][up] No, it isn't. Character designs mean shit. They're not part of the original work.

edited 28th Mar '13 11:20:10 PM by Saiga

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#3722: Mar 28th 2013 at 11:22:21 PM

I refuse to believe in anything that says Vegeta with a moustache doesn't count.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#3723: Mar 28th 2013 at 11:27:41 PM

^^Like I said, WRITING too. For example, he was apparently part of writing on latest movie. On GT he did character designs only, but I wasn't talking only about GT.

edited 28th Mar '13 11:27:59 PM by SpookyMask

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3724: Mar 28th 2013 at 11:37:16 PM

Still not part of the original work, and he's still not the main scriptwriter. It's not at all complicated.

edited 28th Mar '13 11:37:40 PM by Saiga

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3725: Mar 28th 2013 at 11:37:59 PM

Not complicated, no, but entirely too narrow minded for my liking.

edited 28th Mar '13 11:38:12 PM by Gilphon


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