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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#37101: Feb 7th 2020 at 3:38:42 PM

...I mean, their side content doesn't exactly get as much attention as their DBZA content to be perfectly honest.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#37102: Feb 7th 2020 at 3:56:47 PM

They've also said that they won't be doing more dubs like that.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#37103: Feb 7th 2020 at 3:59:51 PM

Oh, did TOEI get mad at them as usual?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#37104: Feb 7th 2020 at 4:12:11 PM

No. They just didnt like doing it. I'm sure some individuals will still do voice work, but it wont be a "dubbed by TFS" deal.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Feb 7th 2020 at 7:17:10 AM

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#37105: Feb 7th 2020 at 4:12:18 PM

No, Hells was an actual official thing they were asked to do.

HighCrate Since: Mar, 2015
#37106: Feb 7th 2020 at 4:50:57 PM

The people who just followed them for Dragon Ball Z Abridged are way fewer than those that get into all their other content, too.

That is just plain mathematically false.

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#37107: Feb 7th 2020 at 6:05:42 PM

The people who just followed them for Dragon Ball Z Abridged are way fewer than those that get into all their other content, too

Eh, the viewer count on DBZA regularly went over million, while their other videos rarely breach 500k.

I do hope they can continue, but the lack of regular DBZA updates pulling away people to their channel will be a huge blow to them.

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#37108: Feb 8th 2020 at 12:07:15 PM

I mean, I only ever cared about DBZA itself. I'll probably drop off as a result, the Shortz are funny but not enough to hold my interest.

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#37109: Feb 8th 2020 at 1:24:26 PM

Some of them may or may not do voice work, but what I always liked about TFS was the voice of their writing. There's a realness to their characters that you almost never see in media outside of, like, irreverent animated sitcoms.

Like, most writers will have a character give a thirty-minute speech about how much another character sucks, waxing on and on in a way that makes you think the character clearly wrote and rehearsed this speech in advance, using big flowery words to further stress how verbose and intelligent the character is.

But TFS isn't afraid to have a character just call someone a scum-sucking cockgobbler and be done with it. Their dialogue often sounds like things that actual people might say to each other, much moreso than most dialogue in media.

  • Standard Dialogue: I've heard everything you have to say, and I find your position unconvincing. You will see through the strength of my heart and the might of my sword that my cause is truly just.
  • TFS Dialogue: Counterpoint: Blow me, shit-stain.

TFS writes like Abridgers, and it gives their work a very unique voice. That's actually why I've been reluctant to get into Hells; it has the voices of TFS, but because it's a dub, the writing was done by someone else. And I don't watch TFS's work for the actors' voices; I watch their work for the writing.

So I'm looking forward to what TFS does next. They've made a decision as a company that they want to create their own shows rather than move into professional dubbing, and I support that. Anything they create originally will be written in their voice, and that's all I need.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#37110: Feb 8th 2020 at 3:12:44 PM

I'm rather fond of how they write characters like Vegeta, 18, Integra, and Bulma. Right to the point, they are.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#37111: Feb 8th 2020 at 3:51:12 PM

Yeah, they're not afraid to point out how BS a lot of the characters are, either. Like sure, Vegeta's powerful, but he's also an arrogant blowhard who is just as often the cause of problems as Goku is, and he outright does it out of malice rather than Goku's innocent naïveté.

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#37113: Feb 8th 2020 at 4:11:11 PM

They don't really treat Bulma that poorly though.

Or at least, not compared to how they beat on Yamcha (even if they are only exaggerating how the fandom treats him).

I mean, no one ever really gets on Bulma for falling in love with and having a child with a mass murderer anywhere near as hard as they should.

At most it's just snarky comments, which is still more of a reaction than the original story.

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#37114: Feb 8th 2020 at 4:21:48 PM

The closest they rag on Bulma is during the Namek Saga and that's mostly commenting on how she does a whole lotta nothing after they land on the planet.

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#37116: Feb 8th 2020 at 4:34:49 PM

That sounds like an euphemism.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 8th 2020 at 4:34:57 AM

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#37117: Feb 8th 2020 at 4:38:37 PM

...huh.

It actually does. Funny how that works out.

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#37118: Feb 8th 2020 at 4:53:05 PM

They don't rag on Tien either despite him acting like a prick.

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#37119: Feb 8th 2020 at 5:04:02 PM

Bulma skates by on the same "Shitty person acting shitty isn't news" dynamic that makes fans totally apathetic to every awful thing Vegeta does before and after becoming a protagonist, while honing in on and blowing all of Goku's bad decisions out of proportion.

People expect Vegeta to act shitty because he's a villain who became a hero an antihero a punching bag for other villains. So when he does something shitty, fans are just like, "Eeyup."

But because Goku's the hero of the piece, fans have higher expectations from him. When he makes shitty choices, it's news, because he's supposed to be the Good Guy here. People expect Goku to be better than that, whereas they expect nothing from Vegeta and are thus rarely disappointed in him.

Gohan kinda gets screwed like Goku too. If the Cell arc hadn't made such a big deal out of Gohan becoming the next-gen Goku, I don't think anyone would care for even two seconds about him letting his skills slide. Supporting characters become obsolete all the time in this series. Nobody hates on Krillin for retiring, having a family, and not spending every waking moment training for the next Big Threat around the corner. But because the series promised that Gohan would become the new Hero, expectations rose and now people get mad that he's not.

But Bulma's closer to Vegeta's end of the scale. Her very first scene in the entire series features her shooting a ten-year-old in the face with a gun, who she then manipulates with blatant lies to come with her. She then proceeds to enslave an intelligent being not too long after that.

There's never been any pretense that Bulma is a good person. So when she f*cks a mass-murderer who killed all of her friends not long ago, it's surprising, but it's hard to be disappointed as that implies that you thought Bulma was better than that. And there has never been any reason to think that.

It's totally unfair, but that's how expectations go. Vegeta and Bulma get brownies for bare-minimum basic human decency, while Gohan and Goku get yelled at and grounded if their grades slip below a 98%.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 8th 2020 at 6:06:32 AM

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#37120: Feb 9th 2020 at 12:26:09 AM

Blooma's worst acts are when she's just a horned-out teen...

It wouldn't really be all that out there to say she's stops being a horrible person after that...until she sexes the evil Vegetable guy.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#37121: Feb 9th 2020 at 5:14:45 AM

Let's be honest, she's a worse parent than Goku was until AT LEAST the timeskip, but nobody gets on her case for it because Trunks grew up to be kind of a little shit, instead of the perpetually traumatized Gohan.

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#37122: Feb 9th 2020 at 5:17:40 AM

None of Gohan or Trunks parents are good parents.

They all have problems.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 9th 2020 at 5:17:55 AM

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#37123: Feb 9th 2020 at 5:29:31 AM

[up][up]Well it was also one instance and that One instance is also just her being incredibly dumb...which in the moment matters more than just being a bad parent.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#37124: Feb 9th 2020 at 5:36:09 AM

Frankly the only good parents in this series are Videl and Gohan.

Yeah you heard me right, King Cold was a shitty dad too.

Zarastro Since: Sep, 2010
#37125: Feb 9th 2020 at 5:51:33 AM

Remember when Bulma brought Trunks with her because she wanted to see the androids?. Not only did she put her baby in danger for no reason, she also allowed Dr. Gero to escape. Say what you want about Goku, but he never pulled anything remotely similar with Gohan.


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