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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#36901: Jan 8th 2020 at 5:18:16 AM

The Broly movie had my favorite ending. "I want a divorce." "POWER LEVEL MAXIMUM~"

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#36902: Jan 8th 2020 at 11:49:19 AM

"I will see you in Space Hell... Cousin Jeice..."

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#36903: Jan 8th 2020 at 3:58:32 PM

I like that Sauza has the self-awareness to know that he's going to Hell. Kind of comes with the territory of being part of the goon squad for a vicious space emperor.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#36904: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:04:08 PM

Space Hell, you mean.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#36905: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:13:02 PM

Ironically, he'll probably end up in Earth Hell, so he won't be able to meet Jeice who is in Space Hell.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36906: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:16:51 PM

So like. Is Space Hell where everyone who doesn't die on earth goes? Or is there like a hell for every planet and Space Hell is for people who didn't die on their home planet?

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#36907: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:17:57 PM

Well, Namekian Hell. I'm assuming the gods set up a system where there is a Hell for each planet. Like, Earth has a Hell, so Namek probably does too. Though I don't know what happens to you if you die in space far away from a planet.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#36908: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:23:02 PM

If Fusion Reborn and GT count for anything, every villain that died show up to invade Earth, even the guys who died on Namek and other planets (mostly General Metal Man).

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#36909: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:28:40 PM

I assume there has to be a way to move between afterlives, because the Kais can move between afterlives, and I'm not entirely sure that the afterlives themselves aren't just places souls go on the physical plane.

Goku did Instant Transmission into the Otherworld with Cell, after all, so he has to be able to aim at said Otherworld, meaning it's just as physical as regular Earth.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#36910: Jan 8th 2020 at 7:52:30 PM

[up][up][up][up] Given the existence of Space Australia and regular Australia, it would imply just regular Hell vs Space Hell.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36911: Jan 15th 2020 at 10:11:10 PM

@ weirdguy: I don't think they considered the logistics because Frieza isn't a cyborg in Hell but Dr Gero is, yet both of them died as cyborgs

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#36912: Jan 15th 2020 at 10:29:14 PM

Dr. Gero was actually born with eye lasers and a glass dome over his brain, clearly. The only change he made to become an android was installing a coffee maker in his abdominal cavity.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#36913: Jan 16th 2020 at 1:23:29 AM

Might be what you identify best as? Gero prefers robot bits, Freeza prefers organic.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36914: Jan 16th 2020 at 1:28:06 AM

I could see it; Gero wanted to be that way, while Frieza ended up like that as the result of his greatest humiliation.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#36915: Jan 16th 2020 at 10:43:58 AM

That residual self-image thing would work as an explanation.

One plot point that Toei glosses over is that only people who receive special dispensation get to keep their bodies when they die. Neither Frieza nor Gero should have bodies at all. Their breakout of Hell should consist of little harmless wispy aggressively wafting in people's vicinity.

Resurrection of F gave us our first canon look into Hell and introduced the idea that a dead person has at least some sort of visible identifier based on what they looked like, though Cocoon Frieza still isn't the same thing as Frieza keeping his actual body and his immense battle power in the afterlife.

But since the basis of Fusion Reborn's Hell Breakout depends on ignoring that point and letting the escapees have bodies, the idea that their power is contained in some sort of spirit body based on how they perceived themselves in life is probably the most effective compromise.

To whit,

  • Vegeta: Idiot, you don't keep your clothes when you die.
  • Goku: I did. Even had my weighted training clothes on. And I didn't even die in those.

While the canon is that God restored Goku's body and patched him up (thus explaining why he has a fresh change of clothes to go with it), Toei's interpretation seems to be that anyone who dies just shows up to the afterlife in the form they're most comfortable with. Thus we have true-form Frieza, cyborg Gero, Perfect Cell, etc.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 16th 2020 at 11:48:30 AM

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CryoJNik He who holds fandoms in contempt from At the edge of tomorrow Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#36916: Jan 16th 2020 at 3:03:59 PM

Wasnt that because Yema was making everyone strip for some unexplained reason in a post episode gag?

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#36917: Jan 16th 2020 at 3:20:11 PM

Not unexplained, he is just a bisexual pervert (if his reaction to Recoome's dick is any indication).

Edited by Fedetropes on Jan 16th 2020 at 8:20:47 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#36918: Jan 17th 2020 at 3:19:03 AM

He is just weirdly fixated on stuff. Like mahogany.

...

Maaaahogany.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#36919: Jan 17th 2020 at 6:22:24 AM

Wait, if every planet has their own afterlife, how come Yenma got to oversee people who died on Namek? Doesn't Namek have their own guy overseeing who goes to hell?

How did the Ginyus even get to King Kai's planet? And faster than Goku did? Dragon Ball metaphysics make anti-sense.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#36920: Jan 17th 2020 at 7:02:51 AM

And faster than Goku did?

Burter is the fastest in the universe, remember?

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#36921: Jan 17th 2020 at 7:15:56 AM

The Ginyus had a real spaceship designed by a society that had mastered FTL travel decades before Goku was a gleam in his mother's eye.

Goku had the first attempt at an interstellar spacecraft ever invented by humankind.

Bulma and her father are mad super-geniuses whose physics-breaking tech outstrips the rest of the universe in many, many ways. But everyone has their weaknesses, I guess.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 17th 2020 at 8:16:06 AM

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#36922: Jan 17th 2020 at 8:20:08 AM

Spaceships don't help you get across Snake Way faster. And they definitely shouldn't have helped them get onto snake way in the first place.

Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#36923: Jan 17th 2020 at 8:59:45 AM

Anyone stronger than Beginning Of Z Goku can cross the snake way much faster, King Kai commented the rest of the Dragon Team who died and went to his planet did it much faster than Goku did, the Ginyu Force is much stronger than the Saiyan Saga fighters, do the math.

Also, as to why they're there, King Kai brought them for training and it's freaking Toei filler, did you actually expect it to make sense?

Edited by Fedetropes on Jan 17th 2020 at 2:00:43 PM

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#36924: Jan 17th 2020 at 9:25:51 AM

https://twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status/1108955121939968000?s=19

Kaiser on their writing for Goku, Gohan and Piccolo.

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#36925: Jan 17th 2020 at 9:56:22 AM

Spaceships don't help you get across Snake Way faster. And they definitely shouldn't have helped them get onto snake way in the first place.

Oh, whoops.

Somehow I misread and thought the question was about how the Ginyus got to Namek faster than Goku did. My bad.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 17th 2020 at 10:56:44 AM

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