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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#36426: Dec 15th 2019 at 9:08:05 PM

I admit, despite the complaints (many of which are valid) I did love how balls out crazy Buu was.

You never really knew what bullshit he'd bust out next.

Regenerating from smoke during his fight with Gotenks was all kinds of unfair. That Piccolo and Gotenks were smart enough to burn the remains makes it even more cruel. Then again, it's always annoying when the villain busts out some bullshit to prolong a fight they'd more or less lost.

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#36427: Dec 15th 2019 at 9:10:26 PM

I like boo because aside of is power being odities like making people chocolate or the manipulation of is body is diferent class of boo: fat one who can be creepy in his destruction, the evil one who grow more and more complex and inteligent and of course kid buu who is a raw force of destruction.....

but yeah I will said in term of plot buu saga feel nonsensical a best.

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#36428: Dec 15th 2019 at 9:28:37 PM

Regenerating from smoke during his fight with Gotenks was all kinds of unfair. That Piccolo and Gotenks were smart enough to burn the remains makes it even more cruel.

...I mean, that was also how Buu was introduced. Gohan fired a Kamehameha at the sealing ball and it broke open, releasing pink smoke out that congealed in the air to form Buu. Buu regenerating from smoke was literally the first thing we saw him do, it's not that much of a surprise to see Buu do it again.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Dec 15th 2019 at 10:29:00 AM

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#36429: Dec 15th 2019 at 10:02:48 PM

I'd grant Jiren something and that is not having regeneration.

Now, imagine a saiyan with regeneration like Buu's.

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#36430: Dec 16th 2019 at 5:13:17 AM

...so Goku in Dragonball Super then.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
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#36432: Dec 16th 2019 at 5:44:54 AM

Buu was technically a Saiyan and a half as well.

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#36433: Dec 16th 2019 at 5:46:10 AM

I doubt he got zenkais while he had them inside of him though

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#36435: Dec 16th 2019 at 6:10:13 AM

I thought he only got techniques and power, not racial traits? I guess he gets some physique to keep it fresh compared to Cell.

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#36436: Dec 16th 2019 at 7:30:15 AM

I still laugh of "I fused zamasu and zamasu in this new form....call zamasu"

Oh dear.

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#36437: Dec 16th 2019 at 9:25:36 AM

I'm not really sure you can count regeneration as a technique. I mean, would you count "having a pancreas" as being a technique? It' not something you can exactly learn.

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#36438: Dec 16th 2019 at 11:18:31 AM

The main issue with Buu's regeneration isn't how it's used, but rather how it isn't. Once you've introduced that the villain can literally be vaporized and still regenerate anyway, the question of how to beat that becomes very complicated.

Dragon Ball doesn't really answer that question. Fat Buu is thoroughly and totally obliterated, but just comes back like nothing happened. Super Buu is thoroughly and totally obliterated, but just comes back like nothing happened. But when it comes time for the Genki-Dama to thoroughly and totally obliterate Pure Buu, it just works and he dies for realsies this time. Because f*ck you, that's why.

Majin Buu is a very threatening force for his seemingly limitless superpowers that transcend battle power, but that also seems to have given Toriyama some trouble in figuring out how to actually stop him. So he just turns off Buu's infinite absolute regen for the sake of ending the fight.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 16th 2019 at 12:19:56 PM

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#36439: Dec 16th 2019 at 11:19:40 AM

weakened him enough for Shenron's wish to reincarnate him? tongue

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#36440: Dec 16th 2019 at 11:22:39 AM

Well, giving him the Cooler treatment would've worked, because even as he tried to reform, he'd just continue burning up.

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#36441: Dec 16th 2019 at 11:27:15 AM

I don't think Shenron was the one who reincarnated Buu into Uub. That's a job for the guys in Otherworld.

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#36442: Dec 16th 2019 at 11:31:01 AM

Based on Cell's claim of being a solar system buster, Buu could have probably just destroyed the sun.

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#36443: Dec 16th 2019 at 12:05:40 PM

tis fisting time

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#36444: Dec 16th 2019 at 12:20:41 PM

Wow, that didn't take long.

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#36445: Dec 16th 2019 at 12:35:01 PM

The main issue with Buu's regeneration isn't how it's used, but rather how it isn't. Once you've introduced that the villain can literally be vaporized and still regenerate anyway, the question of how to beat that becomes very complicated.

Dragon Ball doesn't really answer that question. Fat Buu is thoroughly and totally obliterated, but just comes back like nothing happened. Super Buu is thoroughly and totally obliterated, but just comes back like nothing happened. But when it comes time for the Genki-Dama to thoroughly and totally obliterate Pure Buu, it just works and he dies for realsies this time. Because f*ck you, that's why.

Majin Buu is a very threatening force for his seemingly limitless superpowers that transcend battle power, but that also seems to have given Toriyama some trouble in figuring out how to actually stop him. So he just turns off Buu's infinite absolute regen for the sake of ending the fight

That's not true, Boo never comes back from complete annihilation. The most that happens is that he is reduced to smoke, and the second time that happens Piccolo realizes they should have blown away all the smoke with their ki blasts.

So the solution is to wipe him out completely and leave not enough the smoke behind, which is what the Genki Dana does.

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#36446: Dec 16th 2019 at 12:42:44 PM

Doesn't the Genkidama do more damage the more evil you are? Considering Kid/Pure Buu is a manifestation of a Chaotic Evil force of nature, it would make sense that the spirit bomb would be able to put him down for good.

Or maybe i'm getting the thing mixed up with Soul Punisher. I wonder if that technique would have killed Buu too....hmmm too bad Toei decided to use Gogeta before Toriyama.

As for Dragon Fist, cool technique. Also one of the rare times we saw a Super Saiyan 3 actually win tonguetonguetongue

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#36447: Dec 16th 2019 at 12:54:51 PM

I think that depends on whether you can apply the concept of good and evil to something that is essentially insanity incarnate/force of nature. Pure of heart at least.

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#36448: Dec 16th 2019 at 1:02:08 PM

[up]You can, at least here in dragon ball, in fact in the original series goku survive the atack of the devil who should blow him up because he have a pure heart like babies and animals.

Kid buu have a sense of inteligence, a very child like but it does have it.

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#36449: Dec 16th 2019 at 1:09:23 PM

Wasn't it purity? That's why Kid Buu was able to push back the bomb, just like Gohan had been able to bounce it into Vegeta; Kid Buu was pure. Pure chaos, but pure, and thus was able to move it (but not survive a point blank detonation).

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#36450: Dec 16th 2019 at 1:19:46 PM

[up]Because kid buu is sentinent, is not like the D reaper of digimon, kid enjoy destroy, he is not a robot so to speak.

And dragon ball morality is very simplistic, buu is evil and the spirit bomb work, that it.

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