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#35426: Aug 7th 2019 at 3:33:35 PM

Also it's kind of an unexpected sideways compliment that Goku equates "stronger than Krillin" to "can totally take down Perfect Cell".

Krillin gave a confused, "Why me, SPECIFICALLY?!" when Goku said that, but given that later decision Goku tried to make, he might just think really (unjustly) highly of Krillin rather than that being a dig against him.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 7th 2019 at 4:33:46 AM

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#35427: Aug 7th 2019 at 3:51:22 PM

[up]Which fits the Canon, as Kuririn ranks very high still in his list of sparring partners and he had full confidence that he'd make a worthy addition to the To P team.

Edited by HailMuffins on Aug 7th 2019 at 7:51:35 AM

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#35428: Aug 7th 2019 at 3:58:57 PM

Yeah, Goku probably doesn’t realize how far behind Krillin is by this point.

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#35429: Aug 8th 2019 at 1:27:58 AM

I haven't seen the original Broly movie in full but from what I can tell, there is a good reason TFS had to rewrite the script for the abridged version 5 times. They had cut out a lot of fluff due to how much it stretched out its run time, correct?

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#35430: Aug 8th 2019 at 2:48:49 AM

[up] I would strongly protest against watching the TFS version of anything if you haven't seen the original. Especially when the original is like, what, 45 minutes? Yes, they cut out some filler but I wasn't a fan of how anti-Broly their take on that movie was so it's kind of a biased account.

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#35431: Aug 8th 2019 at 2:57:23 AM

I haven't seen the original, but Abridged Broly seemed like a very respectful badass ("Do you believe now?" holy hell that one was cooool) until his mind completely disintegrated, which felt like a necessary move to allow the movie to actually end.

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#35432: Aug 8th 2019 at 3:03:54 AM

No, it's negative because Vegetarian keeps calling him dumb.

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Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#35433: Aug 8th 2019 at 3:09:13 AM

And? That's Vegeta. Whom didn't he insult?

On Doylist angle, he is an expression of the team poking fun at that part of his instability. But at the same time, the same writers gave Broly super-cool dialogue. If the movie was just bashing on him, they would've babified him there too.

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#35434: Aug 8th 2019 at 3:11:41 AM

That's not the point.

The point is that he kept calling him dumb.

Doesn't that mean anything?

It's like the only thing that happened in the entire video.

Exaggerative comment.

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#35435: Aug 8th 2019 at 3:53:08 AM

You seem to be missing that every time Vegeta calls him dumb, he precedes it with a compliment, usually that Broly is cool. That's the point, that Broly has a lot of cool shit about him that is just completely at odds with the dumb parts about him.

Hell, the cool shit about Broly is the whole reason he got the new reboot movie, that ditched all the dumbness and emphasized the cool parts while making Broly a sympathetic character and exploring the trauma he should logically have, given his already present backstory.

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#35436: Aug 8th 2019 at 3:58:57 AM

I never saw any of the DBZ movies, and the TFS versions work just fine.

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#35437: Aug 8th 2019 at 4:03:16 AM

[up][up]I didn't miss anything.

Exaggerative comment.

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#35438: Aug 8th 2019 at 4:15:20 AM

Yeah you definitely oversimplified the situation regarding the line.

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Adannor (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#35439: Aug 8th 2019 at 4:15:42 AM

"Exaggerative comment" would've been one post, while you doubled down.

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#35440: Aug 8th 2019 at 4:22:16 AM

Its hard to have a conversation with someone who insists on posting in such a random,stream of consciousness way

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 8th 2019 at 11:22:48 AM

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#35441: Aug 8th 2019 at 5:08:32 AM

Personally, my problem with Broly Abrigded is how anti-Goku it is, it's definitely the point where it stopped being an affectionate mockery and crossed over into bashing the character.

Thankfully they dialed back on it.

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#35442: Aug 8th 2019 at 6:42:20 AM

I used to care about that, but overtime I ceased taking issue with Anti-Goku jokes. He just isn't a character I get worked up about anymore. Much like how Dragon Ball isn't a series I bother defending from criticism at this point.

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#35443: Aug 8th 2019 at 7:21:37 AM

Vegeta's response was an apt summary of how the fandom reacted to Broly. He's viscerally incredibly cool but also one of the stupidest f*cking concepts ever put to anime. That is the paradox of OG Broly.

And it's why New Broly is glorious.

Little sad they missed the opportunity to riff on the fact that Legendary Super Saiyan Broly is Legendary-er than Legendary Super Saiyans Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, and Gohan.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 8th 2019 at 8:23:07 AM

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#35444: Aug 8th 2019 at 7:25:31 AM

[up] I think that was brought up in the hair colour.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#35445: Aug 8th 2019 at 7:44:07 AM

Especially when the original is like, what, 45 minutes?

It was actually the longest original DBZ movie, at around an Hour 15 Minutes. Most of it is fine but the part where Broly pummels Goku while Vegeta throws a hissy fit about giving Goku his energy really drags and TFS cutting that out of their version improved the pacing immeasurably.

Edited by Moth13 on Aug 8th 2019 at 10:44:20 AM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#35446: Aug 8th 2019 at 8:01:11 AM

Also, anti-Gokuness has been done with with episode 60 anyway.

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#35447: Aug 8th 2019 at 8:11:32 AM

Also, anti-Gokuness has been done with with episode 60 anyway.

Oh, no. Just wait 'til you see the Buu arc. Some of Goku's absolute worst Goku Moments are still to come.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#35448: Aug 8th 2019 at 9:03:33 AM

The Broly movie brought up the issue of giving Vegeta a kingdom to rule over and finally do something with his title as prince. I kind of wanted to see what kind of ruler Vegeta would be. Unfortunately that plot point went absolutely nowhere. Vegeta never DID anything the whole time he was supposed to be ruler.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#35449: Aug 8th 2019 at 9:24:35 AM

A lot of people watch DBZA who have never watched Dragon Ball. Even TFS was surprised by that at first.

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#35450: Aug 8th 2019 at 9:32:18 AM

I kind of wanted to see what kind of ruler Vegeta would be.

I think TFS hit the nail on the head with that one: a narcissistic, amoral asshole more concerned with his castle's aesthetics than with the plight of his people, and who gleefully encourages the taking of other races as slaves.

That fits Vegeta's character pretty much to a T. Remember that this is the guy who is exceptionally evil even by Saiyan standards, shocking Nappa with his cruel dismissal towards Raditz's life. He's not really fit to run a nation; not even a Saiyan one.

He's less of a selfish monster in Super and even encourages the development of Universe 6's Saiyans. However, that's after the Character Development he underwent with Super Perfect Cell, the entire Buu arc, and Bulma's fateful birthday party. The OG Broly film is before all of that, so he's still 100% shitheel.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 8th 2019 at 10:36:30 AM

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