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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3451: Feb 17th 2013 at 5:38:01 PM

The voice work for Kai was pretty good, overall.

Speaking of future games, who else would like to see just flat out more characters? I mean, balance is pretty much a "to the winds" issue with them, so why not throw in even more characters. Not even just canon characters, but hypotheticals too. Word of God says Cooler had five forms, but was normally in his fourth one. Well, let's see the other three. Does Cold have more forms? Let's see those too. Hell, let's get Chilled in here. That hypothetical fusion of Dende and Goku? I wanna see it. The intended fusion with Gohan too. Stuff like that.

Medigo0 Since: Jun, 2012
#3452: Feb 17th 2013 at 5:38:42 PM

wish DBZA could use the Faulconer score in some instances, but what can you do

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3453: Feb 17th 2013 at 5:49:53 PM

"Word Of God says Cooler had five forms, but was normally in his fourth one"

That was dub only.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3454: Feb 17th 2013 at 5:55:23 PM

I actually made a roster I'd like to see. Hold on...

Saiyans:

  • Goku [Base, SSJ, SSJ 2, SSJ 3]
  • Vegeta [Base, SSJ, ASSJ, SSJ 2] (Scouter Vegeta and Majin Vegeta are sorta just combined into base form and SSJ 2, respectively.)
  • Super Gogeta
  • Vegito [Base, SSJ]
  • Kid Gohan
  • Teen Gohan [Base, SSJ, SSJ 2]
  • Gohan [Base, SSJ, SSJ 2, Ultimate]
  • Future Gohan [Base, SSJ]
  • Goten [Base, SSJ]
  • Trunks [Base, SSJ]
  • Future Trunks (Sword) [Base, SSJ]
  • Future Trunks [Base, SSJ, USSJ]
  • Gotenks [Base, SSJ, SSJ 3]

Z Fighters:

  • Krillin
  • Yamcha
  • Tien
  • Chiaotzu
  • Yajirobe
  • Chi-Chi
  • Master Roshi [Base, Max Power]
  • Piccolo

Other Allies:

  • Mr. Satan
  • Videl
  • Nail
  • Supreme Kai [Base, Kibito Kai]
  • Pikkon

Saiyan Saga Villains:

  • Raditz
  • Saibaman
  • Nappa

Namek Saga Villains:

  • Cui
  • Dodoria
  • Zarbon [Base, Transformed]
  • Guldo
  • Recoome
  • Burter
  • Jeice
  • Ginyu [Base, Goku]
  • Frieza [1st Form, 2nd Form, 3rd Form, 4th Form, Full Power]
  • Mecha-Frieza
  • King Cold

Android Saga Villains:

  • Android 19
  • Dr. Gero
  • Android 16
  • Android 17
  • Android 18
  • Cell [Imperfect, Semi-Perfect, Perfect, Super Perfect]
  • Cell Jr.

Buu Saga Villains:

  • Spopovtich
  • Babidi
  • Pui Pui
  • Dabura
  • Majin Buu
  • Evil Buu
  • Super Buu [Base, Gotenks Absorbed, Gohan Absorbed]
  • Kid Buu

Movie Characters:

  • Garlic Jr. (Transformed state only)
  • Turles
  • Lord Slug
  • Dore
  • Neizu
  • Salza
  • Cooler [4th Form, 5th Form]
  • Meta-Cooler
  • Android 14
  • Android 15
  • Android 13 [Base, Super]
  • Broly [Base, SSJ, LSSJ]
  • Zangya
  • Bojack [Base, Full Power]
  • Bio-Broly
  • Super Janemba
  • Tapion

Special Characters:

  • Hatchiyak
  • Tarble
  • Bardock [Base, SSJ]
  • Chilled

Dragon Ball Characters:

  • Kid Goku
  • Kid Chi-Chi
  • Android 8
  • Grandpa Gohan
  • General Blue
  • Tao Pai Pai

GT Characters:

  • SSJ 4 Goku
  • SSJ 4 Vegeta
  • SSJ 4 Gogeta
  • Pan
  • Uub [Base, Majuub]
  • Baby Vegeta
  • Nuova Shenron
  • Syn Shenron [Base, Omega]

Bonus:

  • SSJ 3 Vegeta
  • SSJ 3 Broly
  • Gotan/Gokule (Goku-Mr. Satan Potara fusion)

Anyone particularly notable I'm missing? Also, this may seem a large roster, but it's probably smaller than the BT 3 one.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3455: Feb 17th 2013 at 5:58:22 PM

There's no source for it, but the wiki says:
It is stated an issue of Weekly Shonen Jump explains Cooler does not need to use lower forms like Frieza's first three forms because Cooler can fully control his power in his true form [sic]

[up]Let's see, add Devilman, Demon King Piccolo, Kami and Mr Popo. I assume Cui is Kiwi; if not, Kiwi. SSJ(1/2/3) Nappa, Radditz, Bardock and Turbles. Prillan (Krillin/Piccolo fusion). Pilaf (Armored). Cooler (1st/2nd/3rd form). There's more I'm sure.

edited 17th Feb '13 6:07:53 PM by Zeromaeus

hass Since: Nov, 2013
#3456: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:06:56 PM

[up][up]Well really, that's kinda the BT 3 cast with the additions from Raging Blast 2. I don't think it's possible or necessary to add more characters than the norm nowadays anyway.

I'm guessing that was Ultimate Tenkaichi?

Yup. The whole game is a bit clunky.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3457: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:10:39 PM

Ooh, all of the Kais. Plus anyone introduced in the new movie.

edited 17th Feb '13 6:10:56 PM by Zeromaeus

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3458: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:16:17 PM

I'd include anyone from the new movie, yes

The only Kai I'd consider is South Supreme Kai, though, for fighting Kid Buu.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3459: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:20:45 PM

ALL of the Kais. Old Kai. Female Kai. Fat Kai. Buff Kai. Young Kai. King Kai. Other Kais.

Also that girl from Dr. Slump.
Also that devil kid from Sandland.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#3460: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:25:31 PM

Let's have a Dragon Ball fighting game. Not Z, Dragon Ball.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3461: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:26:53 PM

I was pulling from everything pre-GT, really.

Now that I think on it, many of these characters could be supplemented with a sufficiently advanced character creator. Add in a sufficient backlog of extra attacks and the sky is the limit.

edited 17th Feb '13 6:28:23 PM by Zeromaeus

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3462: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:49:48 PM

A character creator like in Ultimate Tenkaichi would be neat, though with more races and the ability to make females.

Humans, androids, and Namekians would be cool (Though genderless on that last one).

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3463: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:50:24 PM

[up][up][up] You wouldn't get a very good one for sticking to pre-Z.

edited 17th Feb '13 6:50:34 PM by Saiga

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3464: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:53:23 PM

One that focuses less on roster size and more on balance would be good for Dragon Ball only.

Also, worth noting that in my inclusions, Uub is his GT self if only because it would feel sorta silly to use Z-era Uub. And "Baby Vegeta" is in his final non-monkey form.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3465: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:54:30 PM

If they fleshed out their character creator, they could do a lot.

Aside from gender, the number of races could be extensive.
Human, Android, Namekian, Saiyan, Freiza's race, Kais, fusions and monstrous creatures.
Monstrous creatures would be the most limited, but would have the radical things like all the horns and weird body structures.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3466: Feb 17th 2013 at 6:57:19 PM

Human, Namekian, Android, and Saiyan are the ones that should be focused on first. Frieza race could be cool (And even have significant transformations), and maybe just one "alien" race that allows for the miscellaneous humanoid aliens such as Zarbon, Pikkon, the Ginyu Force, ect.

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#3467: Feb 17th 2013 at 7:04:10 PM

Oh fan wikis. I was gonna link to Zarboria, but just read this one.

For the record, that should be Knuth's Up-Arrow Notation.

edited 17th Feb '13 7:07:59 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3468: Feb 17th 2013 at 7:04:26 PM

The Kais seem like a simple enough template to add that on...
That's what I meant by the monstrous race thing too. On category to account for all the Kiwis and Ginyus and what have you. After all, what's the point of having a super powerful homebrew villain if he doesn't have a pretty henchman, a stupid henchman and a henchman with weird powers?
I agree that the most focus should go on the humans and saiyans.
Though many of those resources could be re-used for androids, namekians and kais.
Freiza's race and other aliens would be the biggest departure by far, but those are more for novelty than anything else.

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#3469: Feb 17th 2013 at 7:06:35 PM

Notable pre-Z fighters (I.E. Fighters that were still notable before the series heard the word "Saiyan")

Goku, Krillin, Roshi/Jackie Chun, Yamcha, Tien, Chiaotzu, Tao, Piccolo, Junior, Kami, Murasaki, Android Eight... I'm sure there are some I'm forgetting. I don't remember what most of the higher-ups in the Red Ribbon Army were like, for example.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3470: Feb 17th 2013 at 7:10:19 PM

The majority of the pre-Z characters don't have much to flesh out movesets with. And most of the battles are gags, like the one against Murasaki.

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#3471: Feb 17th 2013 at 7:11:51 PM

Murasaki, sure, but fighters like Tao have more serious battles.

And most of the ones that were introduced closer to Z, like Tien.

edited 17th Feb '13 7:12:32 PM by Enlong

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3472: Feb 17th 2013 at 7:12:25 PM

Oh, if GT is included, Shadow Dragons would be cool to make.

Humans, Saiyans, and Androids would all draw from the same appearances and features (Though Androids would probably have more room for oddities), so they'd probably get the most stuff. Namekians all tend to look the same anyway, so not too much customization is needed there. Aliens would need lots of stuff, especially skintones (Though I suppose there's no real reason to forbid the other classes from unnatural skintones, plenty of games let you make cyan-skinned humans), due to not being all one race. And the Frieza race would probably have only a little customization but would have more differentiated forms to transform into (4 forms, 5 if you allow Cooler's form).

I'm only talking about appearance, mind you. Though attack-wise, I can't think of many attacks that would be strictly forbidden from other races except maybe Namekian (and possibly alien) regeneration.

edited 17th Feb '13 7:14:43 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#3474: Feb 17th 2013 at 7:19:34 PM

It's a Baby Janemba with a Majin M crudely superimposed.

Which means it's Babidi controlling Baby controlling accumulated evil energy controlling some poor Saike Demon. Yo dawg I heard you like mind control...

edited 17th Feb '13 7:20:20 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#3475: Feb 17th 2013 at 7:20:27 PM

Namekians would be pretty simple, yes. So would the kais.
Androids could have stuff like metal plating/limbs, see through bits, what have you.
Some of the biggest differences could be in the moves they have access to. Namekians could have stretchy arm attacks, while androids could have energy drain and Frieza's race could use an eye laser attack.


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