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#33476: Nov 6th 2018 at 7:07:36 AM

Babidi wants revenge, though. Revenge is not a long-term investment.

  • Step one: Get revenge.
  • Step two: And then there are no more steps.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33477: Nov 6th 2018 at 8:39:31 AM

What the hell did Bibidi want then?

Why was he attacking the gods?

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#33478: Nov 6th 2018 at 8:42:09 AM

I think he might've just been an asshole. He had a giant unstoppable murder monster and he wanted everyone to know it.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33479: Nov 6th 2018 at 8:46:08 AM

Heh.

So just a jerk being a jerk because he can, like so many DBZ villains before him.

That sounds about right.

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#33480: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:12:26 AM

All we really know about his motivations is that he wanted to avenge Bibidi. Killing Kaioshin is the logical extrapolation from there. Which Dabura could have handled just fine. He had no real motivation beyond that.

Things like this are why Frieza remains the best Dragon Ball villain. Because. Like. He didn't really have an "And then what?" after immortality either, but he didn't need one. He didn't need a villainous goal. He had a life. His "And then what?" was to resume being the leader of the Planet Trade Organization in perpetuity. This was a temporary diversion from his day-to-day villainy that went horribly awry.

Only Vegeta and Commander Red of the Red Ribbon Army can really say the same.

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#33481: Nov 6th 2018 at 11:01:19 AM

He wanted universal conquest, hence why he keeps going on after he believes Kaioshin is dead. He can't have that as long as Kaioshin can just outlive his minions and then kill him.

Babidi is old. The way he views events is fundamentally different than our way. For all we know there could have been a thousand Dabras who already died. His father was killed by Kaioshin and he wants to prevent that at all costs.

Edited by Kamiccolo on Nov 6th 2018 at 11:03:23 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33482: Nov 6th 2018 at 11:53:41 AM

Only Vegeta and Commander Red of the Red Ribbon Army can really say the same.

Pilaf as well. His And Then What? was actually rule the world.

So in terms of what they planned after winning, Pilaf, Red, Vegeta, and Freeza had actually end games.

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#33483: Nov 6th 2018 at 11:54:01 AM

He wanted universal conquest, hence why he keeps going on after he believes Kaioshin is dead. He can't have that as long as Kaioshin can just outlive his minions and then kill him.

Kaioshin can't outlive his minions if he's murdered by Dabura, so I fail to see how that's a consideration.

He keeps going on after Kaioshin is dead because Buu is hungry and wants to have fun. By the time Kaioshin is presumed dead, Majin Buu is already a thing. Babidi's really just along for the ride at that point; he has very little real control over the situation, something that Goku ultimately helps Buu realize.

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#33484: Nov 6th 2018 at 12:07:30 PM

Would anything actually change if Pilaf was in charge of the one world government instead of Furry?

Serious question.

Anyway, I could have sworn Babidi also had an endgame of ruling the universe through fear of Buu.

Am I imagining it, or was it filler, but didn't Bibidi take Buu for a joyride to destroy a few planets before the Supreme Kais?

And that was with Kid Buu, who couldn't be corralled with cake.

Edited by unnoun on Nov 6th 2018 at 3:11:03 PM

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#33485: Nov 6th 2018 at 12:10:35 PM

I assume King Furry is at the very least competent at his job, seeing as we're never given any reason to doubt him. There's never any discussion of a crumbling economy or tyrannical government practices or genocides or the like, so in absence of any criticism of his job, my default assumption is that he's probably performing it adequately.

I wouldn't trust Pilaf to perform adequately. I'm sure he'd pour half the treasury into a giant gold statue of himself or some shit.

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#33486: Nov 6th 2018 at 12:18:56 PM

I mean, there's also villages like Nam's and Uub's, and there's secret police that take inconvenient people like Omori away (because they wanted his private island for a vacation resort) and a space program where a rocket nearly blew up and killed Tights and East City, before Jaco beat up the secret police and stopped the rocket from blowing up.

In a gag manga where half the plot is about how incompetent Jaco is, he still manages to be less incompetent than anyone working for the Earth Government.

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#33487: Nov 6th 2018 at 12:20:08 PM

That's true. Nam and Uub's villages don't seem to be reaping much benefit from the One World State.

Maybe King Furry's racist.

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#33488: Nov 6th 2018 at 12:34:43 PM

For me, my favorite piece of worldbuilding in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman and Dragon Ball in general is when Omori says Tights's name sounds like she's from the Western Region.

It's not just Bulma's family that gets named after underwear. It's literally everyone in that quadrant of the planet.

And that's why Jaco is the best Dragon Ball media ever written, and why I need a fucking Jaco OVA right now, Toei.

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#33489: Nov 6th 2018 at 12:35:41 PM

[up] Super Broly has you covered.

When it comes to Dragon Ball Minus at least tongue

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#33490: Nov 6th 2018 at 12:41:02 PM

We'll see when it comes out, though I wish the Bardock special was still canon (the first one, not the second one).

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33491: Nov 6th 2018 at 12:44:35 PM

I actually like Dragon Ball Minus, but I think if there is a flaw with it, it's when people read it outside the context of the rest of the Jaco manga. It only actually works when you read it in the context of Jaco.

And I don't think Super Broly can fix that. Maybe it'll prove me wrong.

Jaco and the Galactic King are in the last two pages of Minus. Do people who seem to think Dragon Ball Minus is a standalone story just. Skip those two pages?

It's the first time the Galactic King speaks, before he shows up in Super and Goku grabs his dick.

...Kami, Goku gave a random alien king a handjob before he kissed his wife on the mouth.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33492: Nov 6th 2018 at 1:17:08 PM

...Kami, Goku gave a random alien king a handjob before he kissed his wife on the mouth.

...good god.

To continue the topic of Governmental incompetence, lets note that the reason the Red Ribbon Army was going around kicking the planet's collective ass is because the World Government literally couldn't stop them. RR was that powerful.

Pilaf needed the Dragonballs because the actual threats didn't. The entire world government couldn't even hope to stop the Red Ribbon. They'd lose every time, without fail.

King Furry seems like a cool dude, but I don't know how good a job he actually does.

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#33493: Nov 6th 2018 at 1:32:22 PM

Wasn't Gero behind their wacky technology?

Silly Gero, there are no Gokus to kill on earth! Yet.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Nov 6th 2018 at 6:32:35 AM

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#33494: Nov 6th 2018 at 1:34:45 PM

He built their androids. So that means he was behind Eighter and maybe Sergeant Metallic.

The rest of their gear was just tanks and shit.

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#33495: Nov 6th 2018 at 1:42:39 PM

"The Red Ribbon Army’s weaponry was all made by Dr. Gero."

Straight from the mouth of Toribot.

Or the anus.

One of those.

Edited by unnoun on Nov 6th 2018 at 4:50:14 AM

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#33496: Nov 6th 2018 at 1:50:14 PM

What, even the tanks and shit? Why wouldn't they just—

You know what, it just occurred to me that a One World State wouldn't have arms manufacturers selling military technology. Who's going to buy tanks if there are no enemy nations to drive them to? King Furry's nation has no purpose for a military-industrial complex.

Objection withdrawn.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 6th 2018 at 2:50:40 AM

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#33497: Nov 6th 2018 at 1:52:13 PM

King Furry's nation has no purpose for a military-industrial complex.

They seem to have a military in the Saiyan Saga.

Nappa sank their battleship.

And their whales.

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#33498: Nov 6th 2018 at 1:58:15 PM

Am I the only one who thought the Pirate Robot was Android 2? Always thought that made more sense than "fucking pirates, man." Maybe something Gero built before joining the RRA.

Edited by Larkmarn on Nov 6th 2018 at 5:01:05 AM

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#33499: Nov 6th 2018 at 2:09:08 PM

[up] Pirates, Frankenstein, Street Punks, Clowns, Rednecks, Bugs.

How many phases did Gero go through?

Edited by fasoman1996 on Nov 6th 2018 at 7:09:22 AM

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lara16 Since: Mar, 2018
#33500: Nov 6th 2018 at 2:10:01 PM

This is the same anime where Goku put a talking rabbit to the moon. Why wouldn't there be a gigantic pirate robot chilling in a cave?

You have to appreciate how ahead of their time those pirates were though. "Hey, what if someone's gonna try to steal our treasure? Oh I know, we'll just build a giant robot to protect it."

Edited by lara16 on Nov 6th 2018 at 2:11:33 AM


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