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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#3326: Feb 14th 2013 at 4:55:45 PM

I thought Babidi went to Eath to pick up Buu. Regardless of the powers, Buu was waiting.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3327: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:04:01 PM

[up] Yeap. In fact, they're unaware of how strong the heroes are, so I doubt it was them that drew them.

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#3328: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:09:40 PM

It's all the balls fault.

Freud just laughed his ass off.

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#3332: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:26:18 PM

Babidi came to Earth to pick up Buu, but the power that revived Buu came directly from SSJ 2 Goku vs. Majin Vegeta, a battle that could never have taken place if Vegeta never came to Earth and Goku never went to Namek and became a Super Saiyan.

Everything bad that happened in the series happened because of people trying to use and/or succeeding in using the Dragon Balls. "People" here doesn't just mean Goku and his gang, although they contributed a heavy amount, but from a "godlike entity punishing mortal kind for their sins" perspective, it's all the same. It doesn't matter who did it, you've crossed the line where everyone gets punished.

edited 14th Feb '13 5:27:01 PM by TobiasDrake

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#3333: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:26:55 PM

Alright, everything except Buu was because of using the balls.

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#3334: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:27:27 PM

Saiga: What I meant was that perhaps the Namekians didn't know about the drawbacks because they weren't using the Balls nearly as often. Like, the "NNNNNEGATIVE ENERGY DRAGONS" thing was a drawback that they never ran into and didn't know could happen.

Unless some line in GT contradicts that by having Namekians talk about how that was something that could happen.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3335: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:27:52 PM

Doesn't really make sense since the Shadow Dragons only cared about the actual wishes.

[up] Yeah, the give an Infodump on the Shadow Dragons when they happen.

edited 14th Feb '13 5:30:56 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#3336: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:29:57 PM

[up][up] I'm pretty sure there was a line somewhere in GT about how someone knew evil Shadow Dragons could happen.

Which is why in my hypothetical ideal GT, that line didn't happen, and everybody was completely surprised.

theweirdKiddokun What a Wonderful World! from Last Place in the Race Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#3337: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:31:55 PM

[up]It was Old Kai who said it.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3338: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:33:32 PM

Dende also talks about it, though.

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#3339: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:34:29 PM

If we get rid of Dende then it works out....better?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3340: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:35:04 PM

Kill the green man!

But Old Kaioshin being a negligent asshole isn't much better than the Namekians being negligent assholes. Also, there's no reason he should have known. He's been sealed away for 75 million years.

edited 14th Feb '13 5:35:42 PM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#3341: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:38:00 PM

So just make it so Old Kai logically doesn't know shit, and the namekians don't actually know how their magic balls work they just do until something goes horrifically wrong.

Two lines. That's easy to take care of.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3342: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:40:15 PM

Yeah. But as I've said, that's only one problem.

I think a better answer to the Dragon Balls being overused would be for them to simply run out of power. Not spit out a bunch of random enemies and have Goku taken away because because.

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#3343: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:40:22 PM

Which make sense if it happen then like him knowing about Super Saiyan 4. Honestly Old Kai would not know how many times they use the dragonball and by the time the shadow dragons show up it would be too late.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3344: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:42:13 PM

Him knowing about Super Saiyan 4 is also weird, since he only knew of Super Saiyan in the first place from Goku and Gohan. The first time he mentions it, he says "Do that Super Saiyan thing or whatever it's called". Kind of weird for a guy to know of Super Saiyan 4 if he's not entirely sure of the transformations' name, eh?

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#3345: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:43:56 PM

I think it would have been neat if, instead of destroying everything, the Shadow Dragons were specifically taking their toys and going home. One by one, unmaking the wishes they had granted, leaving the heroes in a race to stop them before they, say, unmake New Namek or, if they get to the final wish, everyone on Earth returns to being dead.

There wouldn't have to be Seven of them because the Dragons themselves wouldn't have to correspond to a specific wish or ball. Hell, there could just be one. Hell, it could be Shenron himself.

edited 14th Feb '13 5:48:16 PM by TobiasDrake

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#3346: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:46:13 PM

Wasn't Babidi gathering energy to awaken Buu? So Buu would still wake up, it's just Vegedouche and World's Worst Father fighting the made it much quicker

[up] Seven dragons is still an interesting idea o work with, it's just the corresponding wish effecting a particular dragon that made it silly.

edited 14th Feb '13 5:47:21 PM by GethKnight

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#3347: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:47:20 PM

First, I will take away the panties!

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3348: Feb 14th 2013 at 5:59:17 PM

[up] That would be the best way to open the arc. Shenron flies off, everyone goes "what the?" and there's a knock on the door at Kame House.

"I'm here to repossess a certain pair of panties".

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#3349: Feb 14th 2013 at 6:08:16 PM

"But they're used panties!"

"We're Japanese."

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#3350: Feb 14th 2013 at 6:15:16 PM

I could see that line being in the Abridged version. Though, that practice has been illegal for thirty years.


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