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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#33276: Oct 22nd 2018 at 9:45:56 AM

We did see Bulma pregnant in Super. Thats a first.

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#33277: Oct 22nd 2018 at 1:49:46 PM

Remember when all the dead villains were watching Goku and Majin Buu fight?

That was weird

It was, but Babidi going from boasting in front of the other villains about creating Boo to secretly rooting for Goku to win was prettt funny.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#33278: Oct 22nd 2018 at 4:32:18 PM

That begs the question.

If Gero is revived, does he come back with his original body or as Android 20?

Freeza came back as bunch of chunky pieces but conviniently he could regenerate with a machine. If Gero comes back, will it be just a loose brain?

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#33279: Oct 22nd 2018 at 4:44:46 PM

What I want to know is would Android 19 be able to come back? Does he not have a soul like 16 does?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33280: Oct 22nd 2018 at 4:45:23 PM

If Gero came back now, he'd just be a head, because that was the state he was in when he died.

But similar to Freeza, this wouldn't be a detriment to him since his head can survive on it's own apparently, so he'd just need a new body built for him.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33281: Oct 22nd 2018 at 4:49:20 PM

His head was purely mechanical though.

When Freeza is brought back.

Like. His eye looks more like Mecha Freeza than Final Form. His. Eyelid? Cheek and brow? Has that dark blue/gray, metallic/armored texture around it.

But none of Mecha Freeza's purely mechanical parts are there.

...I'm thinking specifically of the thing on his head that looks like, I dunno, a codpiece or a hose or something. His mechanical left arm and both legs are gone too. Even though he seems to have them in hell.

...When 18 is brought back after Buu kills her, she's still a cyborg, as is 17 after Cell and presumably Buu again also.

And when plenty of people are brought back they still have earrings.

...Also, even though Freeza was in his Final Form when he became Mecha Freeza and then died, after they put him in the medical pod he recovers into his First Form. So.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 22nd 2018 at 7:57:45 AM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#33282: Oct 22nd 2018 at 4:57:20 PM

17 and 18 are permanently cyborgs and unless some better scientist shows up and removes their mechanical parts, they will remain like that.

Those enhancements must be pretty good if a magical dragon cannot fix you

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#33283: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:10:58 PM

I think there's a line by Gohan at some point in Super saying that Androids 17 and 18 aren't mechanical and thus can compete in the Tournament of Power. I may be misremembering.

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#33284: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:17:33 PM

Why would that matter when there is an entire team of robots?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#33285: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:27:21 PM

[up][up] They're cyborgs, so they're a mix of human and machine.

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#33286: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:31:54 PM

...I'm thinking specifically of the thing on his head that looks like, I dunno, a codpiece or a hose or something. His mechanical left arm and both legs are gone too. Even though he seems to have them in hell.

The Frieza Coccoon in Hell isn't his body. He's a disembodied soul. This is just the form that his soul takes while being purified or some shit. Something something residual self-image something something.

...When 18 is brought back after Buu kills her, she's still a cyborg, as is 17 after Cell and presumably Buu again also.

17 and 18 are biomechanical, which means there's probably not an ounce of steel or aluminum in their bodies. They're more akin to Cell than 16, 19, and Gero.

Doesn't explain why 17's self-destruct bomb was resurrected, mind. Unless that's also biomechanical?

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Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:33:33 AM

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#33287: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:36:47 PM

The phrase Gohan uses is: "They're huamn-based, just upgraded to super human strength at the cellular level."

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#33288: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:38:11 PM

Gero is a wizard.

And im pretty sure the twins do have mechanical parts. The bombs and its container must have definitely been mechanical.

Maybe also an arm or a leg must have been metal too. Have we ever seen them bleed?

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#33289: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:38:21 PM

And with infinite energy reactors somewhere. Which are apparently also biomechanical. So, like, next to 17's heart or some shit, there's a fleshy doodad that's a perpetual motion device or some shit and provides his body with endless amounts of non-ki energy.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#33290: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:43:16 PM

Speaking of non-ki energy, do we ever find out why Goku et al can't sense the dogs' energy from Universe 9? Like, I'll accept that they can't sense god ki, but why can't they sense the dog trio?

Edited by WillKeaton on Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:48:34 AM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#33291: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:44:59 PM

Maybe the dogs dont use ki? Or a special form of Ki like the divine one?

Furry ki!

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#33292: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:56:00 PM

Obviously it's because Dogs are reverse Gods.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#33293: Oct 22nd 2018 at 5:59:39 PM

I knew it! King Furry and Yamcha are the strongest characters.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#33294: Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:03:03 PM

King Furry low key a destroyer in training. He is only afraid of slugs.

Yamcha is the most normal of the main cast. Questionable sexual encounters with Puar aside.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33295: Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:18:00 PM

You know, I'm really starting to think that video I posted in the main thread about who was smarter between Gero and Bulma was wrong.

True, Bulma created a time machine, but Gero might have a wider level of knowledge considering he does programming, mechanical engineering and genetic engineering.

I'm seriously wondering why he never did any of this shit for the Red Ribbon Army.

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#33296: Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:28:56 PM

At the time of the Red Ribbon Arc he was on Android #8, so he was doing stuff but hadn't advanced it as far

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#33297: Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:32:47 PM

Android 9 is supposedly mecha-commander Red so we can assume he took the body of the fellow and mechanized him. Wether he was activated or even made in the first place is unknown but Dragon ball online did feature that incarnation of Red.

Who knows if models 10-15 (Ignoring the movie ones) are also kidnapped people but that could be the case for most of the models sans 16.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#33298: Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:35:37 PM

I have this mental iimage of Gero sitting in his office reading a science journal and he comes across an article saying that someone has discovered that there's a cicada that has genetic memory, and Gero is all like "Well that's neat, but I can't use that to kill Son Goku," then he puts the journal down and walks off, then a minute later he runs back and picks up the journal and is all like "Wait, wait, yes! I CAN use this to kill Son Goku!"

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#33299: Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:44:08 PM

I like to think that before he made 19, he noticed Tien's DNA for Cell, he figured "Well, shoot, he has to have a Chinese doll-like companion." and made that.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33300: Oct 22nd 2018 at 6:46:49 PM

Heh.

Another thought that dawned on me is why Gero went with Androids (beyond it being his expertise):

Everyone remember Sergeant Metallic? The first Android Goku ever fought, and the only one until Cell to hand him his ass fair and square?

Yeah, I can see where Gero thought there was potential there. Hell, Goku didn't beat Metallic either...in fact, he's never really beaten any of Gero's Androids. Metallic ran out of power before he could continue the fight, 8 opted out due to his pacifism, 19 was winning even if due to outside circumstances and he was forced to give up against Cell.

The good doctor's methods were sincerely flawed, but his How to murder the hell out of Son Goku with Robot People thesis was actually quite sound.

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