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#33226: Oct 21st 2018 at 10:44:06 AM

Getting inflated like that is inconsistent with 16's own attempted use of his bomb and further demonstrates the unlikelihood of 17's bomb being the culprit.

It's not like Cell is the only character who has ever blown himself up as an attack. Chiaotzu's used a similar technique (but not the same technique to whoever is going to think I'm suggesting he cribbed it off of Chiaotzu). Vegeta goes on to blow himself up in the Buu arc without ever having Android 17 inside of him.

The way Cell sells it suggests that what he's doing is basically charging up his ki into a planet-bursting attack to be released inside of him, where it can't potentially be blocked by Gohan. He's a big ol' balloon of ki ready to pop at the slightest provocation.

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#33227: Oct 21st 2018 at 11:01:55 AM

I'm pretty sure that 17 (and 18) died as soon as they got absorbed, much like all the people that Cell drank.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#33228: Oct 21st 2018 at 11:05:38 AM

They didn't. Otherwise, what, Gohan hit Cell so hard it brought 18 back to life?

Edited by LSBK on Oct 21st 2018 at 1:10:49 PM

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#33229: Oct 21st 2018 at 11:09:44 AM

Buu screamed loud enough to rip holes in dimensions. If you have a strong enough fist, you can punch coherence and logic until it gives up and things happen the way you want them to. Or... Something.

Actually, didn't she only just wake up after they revived everyone Cell killed?

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#33230: Oct 21st 2018 at 11:11:45 AM

No, she was passed out and then Little Green healed her.

Otherwise, Trunks would be alive too. She stormed off the moment they said Krillin had feelings for her and later came back when she saw Shenron being summoned. And then she witnessed Trunks being revived

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#33231: Oct 21st 2018 at 11:35:46 AM

Alright, maybe the Androids were put into the equivalent of comas then.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#33232: Oct 21st 2018 at 1:23:42 PM

When Yamcha got revived he appeared in that pool remember? And Tien and Chiatzu were revived right in front of the dragon. And come to think of it, so did Freeza.

Edited by WillKeaton on Oct 21st 2018 at 2:23:48 AM

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33233: Oct 21st 2018 at 1:28:11 PM

The lookout wasn't suddenly covered in naked people, so.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#33234: Oct 21st 2018 at 1:43:17 PM

Maybe Porunga has different rules with resurrection besides the one at a time thing.

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#33235: Oct 21st 2018 at 1:54:27 PM

Also, the Magic Dragons may not be Jackass Genies, but there are rules. If you wish to bring a person back to life, that person isbrought back to life. The dragon doesn't owe you anything extra.

It's funny you mention that while talking about the clothes thing, because this matches up exactly with what happens with Kuririn.

He gets blown up, so he has no body. When they use Porunga to restore his body and life, Kuririn comes back in his clothing with Porunga specifically calls throwing in something extra.

Shenron could do the same thing with Cell's victims, if he thought about it/felt like it.

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#33236: Oct 21st 2018 at 1:59:42 PM

Porunga spares us from seeing Krillin's giant dick.

That makes me wonder, how would cell be revived? As a few roasted bits? Luckily he has regeneration but it makes you wonder how someone who isn't durable and got blown to bits would come back

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#33238: Oct 21st 2018 at 4:50:29 PM

Shenron actually says that the reason he can't bring Freeza back at full health is because he died so long ago. Apparently, it's a limitation that if someone died a long time ago, Shenron can only bring them back in the exact state they died in.

In hindsight, Tagoma and Sorbet probably could've used another wish to heal Freeza's body fully right then and there, but they were busy contemplating bringing back King Cold and the Pilaf Gang stole their wishes by using them on ice cream and money.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#33239: Oct 21st 2018 at 5:42:58 PM

[up] Given how they were originally stopped themselves, I always thought there was a nice little bit of full circle to that.

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#33240: Oct 21st 2018 at 6:19:00 PM

I believe it's that the one year rule applies to the state they can be revived.

If the person is dead longer than a year, they can only be brought back in the exact state they were when they died.

Considering the Z Warriors tend to die either with holes in their chests or completely incinerated, it does make reviving their dead quickly vital, even for someone who's only died once.

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#33241: Oct 21st 2018 at 6:21:58 PM

So of the Z fighters only Piccolo and Buu could be revived after being dead for over a year. Provided Piccolo didn't get his head crushed

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33242: Oct 21st 2018 at 6:24:18 PM

Yes I suppose.

Super even used that as a plot point, with the fact that his connection to them meant Piccolo had never been revived by the Earth's DB's before.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#33243: Oct 21st 2018 at 6:44:07 PM

You know it occurs to me, maybe Cell could do his From a Single Cell thing because of the way Freezer and Piccolo DNA mixed? Freezer could put himself back together when sliced apart and remain alive, and Piccolo could regenerate from otherwise lethal wounds.

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#33244: Oct 21st 2018 at 6:46:01 PM

That's my assumption as well.

Add in the Saiyan ability to grow stronger after near death, and we are all very lucky Cell never lived very long.

Of course, Buu is much better at everything Cell does. You can at least leave behind smoke with Cell.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#33245: Oct 21st 2018 at 6:50:02 PM

17 died when Cell died. They were aware of what was going on while they were in Cell. However, 17 counted as a Cell victim, and thus was revived with the wish. That's how Super handled it.

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#33246: Oct 21st 2018 at 6:59:21 PM

Buu can absorb any person and use their powers whereas Cell doesn't have that ability except absorbing 17 and 18.

Although some games do let him absorb other people besides the androids.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#33247: Oct 21st 2018 at 7:42:55 PM

In GT too. He tried absorbing Goku but Goku managed to break out before being dissolved or whatever.

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#33248: Oct 21st 2018 at 9:02:54 PM

Well, he did funnel-style absorption on Goku for some reason, which is less "liquefying and drinking people" and more "installing batteries".

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#33249: Oct 21st 2018 at 9:53:18 PM

So this Youtube channel continues the Cell Vs series. The videos are eh, but I still figured I'd share the link.

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#33250: Oct 22nd 2018 at 7:44:36 AM

"For some reason" being "Because GT is 100% Toei, 0% Toriyama".

Cell using the wrong method to absorb Goku is the least of their discrepancies with the manga's canon. In fact, it's not even the worst violation of the universe's logic in that scene. That honor goes to Cell and Frieza, along with every other villain in Toei's additions, being given the special dispensation to keep their bodies when sent to Hell.

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