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Actually, no, when it was first introduced Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu were using it casually to watch matches over a high wall without having to hold onto the wall. Chiaotzu also used it constantly throughout his fight with Krillin.
I headcanon that Puar's flight isn't the same kind of thing as everyone else's flight. I think Puar flies with magic, not ki.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 14th 2018 at 8:52:39 AM
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We can only guess why the transformation school never became a thing. My assumption is because it was done entirely for a joke and once Toriyama was done with Oolong and Puar he just never considered it important enough to use again.
As I understand it, him doing that was purely in the anime. In the manga, I think he just got shot without getting a chance to try anything.
And while I like that moment in the anime, the manga makes more sense because Satan isn't supposed to know dick about Ki, so why would he be able to Flash Step.
One Strip! One Strip!I could have sworn the gunmen showed up twice. The first time they shot Bee, the second time they shot Satan.
I also thought shooting Bee the first time was important, because Buu healed Bee, and Satan made Buu promise not to kill anyone.
Granted, Toei making or changing a big plot important thing with filler is possible.
...Im pretty sure Bee existing is in the manga?
Also, did Krillin know about ki in that first tournament in the manga? I thought he just wore a turtle shell and delivered milk.
Krillin and Jackie Chun are able to have a whole comedy skit while moving faster than the eye can see.
Edited by unnoun on Oct 14th 2018 at 1:11:02 PM
Oh. You're talking about the first assassination attempt where Satan goes up the cliff and kicks their asses.
I thought you were talking about the moment where the dude sneaks into Buu's house and shoots Satan.
We don't actually see how Satan gets up the cliff so fast, so it's not clear if he did a flash step or just hauled ass up there while the two gunman were distracted.
Let me check a clip. BRB.
Edit: Right, so I couldn't find an exact clip of Satan attacking those dudes. The best I could find is a moment just after they shoot Bee the puppy but before Satan gets them where they are reacting to Buu's lack of damage after they shoot him with Rocket Launchers (which the clip doesn't have but I remember it now).
So I'm guessing that while they were focused on Buu not being damaged, Satan just ran up to beat them up and they missed it. No need for super speed.
Edited by HandsomeRob on Oct 14th 2018 at 11:22:26 AM
One Strip! One Strip!In the manga the gunman shoots Mr. Satan in the back after Buu heals Bee. In the anime Buu and Satan retire back to Buu's house, and there's a nice moment where Satan rips up the staged photo he took of him "defeating" Buu, but then the gunman barges in and shoots Satan, who tries flash stepping to take him out but gets shot anyway.
As noted, flight isn't so much a level of ki as it is a technique. A very rudimentary technique by cosmic standards; the Planet Trade Organization, Namekians, Saiyans, and the like all seem to teach it, which makes sense given that they have a better understanding of ki. Earth is, after all, a backwater planet full of weaklings, so even basic ki manipulation is a rare and special skill here.
On Earth, the technique is called bukujutsu (Dancing Sky Art) and it's a signature technique for the Crane School. Initially only Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu could perform bukujutsu - bizarrely, not even Taopaipai knew the technique, despite being their aspirational role model.
Goku learned bukujutsu either from watching Tenshinhan doing it and then copying the move - as he does - or during his three years training under God in preparation for the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai. We're never really told when he learned it, but he reveals that he's learned it when he uses it to fight Piccolo in the tournament.
Krillin and Yamcha go on to learn bukujutsu during their training under God in preparation for the Saiyans' arrival. Again, either from Tenshinhan or from God himself; either is plausible and neither is firmly stated. Other humans such as Yajirobe or Kame-sennin never learn bukujutsu and remain flightless, despite being reasonably powerful by Earthling standards.
And, of course, Gohan learns bukujutsu from Piccolo - who never needed to learn it because he already knew it from his time as Piccolo Daimao - and goes on to train Videl in the art.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 14th 2018 at 11:57:39 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Tao Pai Pai is actually levitating the pillars or trees that he rides on via Telekinesis, hence why they always go exactly as far as he needs to go every time.
I don't know if it's a joke or not, but it doesn't really make much sense either way. It's not like either Raditz or Yamcha are weak by universal standards.
I've never actually understood the "look how weak Raditz is!" jokes.
Edited by LSBK on Oct 14th 2018 at 2:12:40 PM
I feel like too many people start with Raditz.
Honestly, the video games dont help. With how many of those go from Raditz to Cell.
All video games from now on should start at the Bulma's Car Saga.
...Or, even better, start with fucking Jaco.
...God, I need my fucking Jaco OVA.
Edited by unnoun on Oct 14th 2018 at 3:29:23 PM
Goku could do a kamehameha a day and destroy a car with a power level of only 10.
It's already been mentioned how flight has been used by Ten and Chaozu casually in their introduction (Ten is unable to keep it up once Goku exhausts him though). Goku and Kuririn learn it by the 23rd Budokai but their versions of the technique are rudimentary. Even five years later, Goku still prefers to use his cloud to fly after Raditz, and to conserve stamina when flying to confront Vegeta and Nappa.
Goku is obviously much stronger than Ten and Chaozu so it's not just how much ki you have.
When Goku and Piccolo go to confront Raditz, Piccolo mentions that his own flying technique is superior to Goku's (no shit). He then went on to train Gohan, who was flying easily within 6 months, and Gohan trained Videl and Goten who learned it in 10 days. That's probably why they had an easier time compared to Kuririn and Goku who were probably self-taught.
Though it does seem to be partially based in the amount of ki you have, much like most other ki-based techniques. After fighting Goku, Tenshinhan was so tired he couldn't fly. A similar thing happened to Krillin after Goku threw the Spirit Bomb against Freeza, where his flight was wobbly and slow and he noted that it was because he was exhausted.
This is probably no different than Goku and Roshi tiring themselves out too much to fire Kamehamehas at the end of their fight, though.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 14th 2018 at 2:30:56 AM
I've said before how I think they'll handle it, but I might as well. I think they'll write Spopovich with more depth and his character will be more outwardly driven by his hatred for Mr. Satan. His fight with Videl will be interspersed with black comedy in the form of Spopovich making fun of her for being Mr. Satan's daughter and insulting her. Videl standing up to him will be played straight.
Kind of similar to how they portrayed the last bit of the Recoome fight, particularly the bit with Gohan.

It can't be too high of a power level, given that Raditz and early DBZ Yamcha can fly.