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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33026: Oct 5th 2018 at 9:35:25 PM

[up][up]I assumed that he (trunks) was sent away so that he wasn't an option for the tournament.

Think about it: Toriyama could have actually used Buu and had Future Trunks as the final member instead of the bullshit with Freeza if he'd been willing to keep the latter around.

But it's clear he wanted anyone who'd be a better choice than Freeza out of the way.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Oct 5th 2018 at 10:38:30 AM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#33027: Oct 5th 2018 at 9:39:15 PM

He wouldn't have been a better choice than Freezer...

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33028: Oct 5th 2018 at 9:48:50 PM

Well I guess in hindsight no.

Freeza worked out pretty well in the end, if you ignore the fact that he's once again undisputed emperor of the universe since the only people who have a hope of stopping him are just gonna sit around in their shit hole of a planet not trying to do anything.

But at the time, nothing about going to Freeza was a good idea; he'd proven himself to be short sighted and massively petty, willing to blow up a planet due to a temper tantrum rather than accept that he lost, and constantly trying to kill Goku out of pride rather than just cutting his losses.

They were lucky that the entire situation forced him to accept his place, but now everyone else has to deal with him, and so many things could have gone wrong with him as a partner.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#33029: Oct 6th 2018 at 3:28:37 AM

If Freeza indulged in Pragmatic Evil he could even be somewhat decent to have around... In a Crapsack World kind of way, and with better alternatives being present in literally 10 universes, and he'll fuck it up anyway...

Also, I still think Cell's time machine should had been used to send Trunks to his new future. One similar to his but where he doesn't exist anymore...

Or meh, just bring him back to the main timeline once they decide to canonize Android 21 or so. He wouldn't really hurt too much.

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#33030: Oct 6th 2018 at 8:46:04 AM

Think about it: Toriyama could have actually used Buu and had Future Trunks as the final member instead of the bullshit with Freeza if he'd been willing to keep the latter around.

Toriyama decides how many fighters each team is allowed. If ten fighters isn't enough for him to get Frieza on the team, he can decide the teams have eleven fighters. Twelve if Buu doesn't take a convenient hibernation nap to get him out of the way.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33031: Oct 6th 2018 at 8:55:43 AM

Then again, maybe he just didn't want to work with 12 fighters.

On the other hand, I don't think 10 worked all that well either.

To be honest, the teams were probably too big.

Combine that with his notorious laziness and I feel like we were doomed no matter what.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#33032: Oct 6th 2018 at 9:00:23 AM

Poor Tien and Piccolo. Their showing were subpar at best.

Honestly, is Buu that much of a Story-Breaker Power? There could be counters to his abilities, like a reflect

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#33033: Oct 6th 2018 at 9:25:07 AM

Buu's nigh infinite regeneration isn't too much of a problem when ring-outs are a concern, and his candy beam has been stopped before. The real problem is that Buu is a healer, which is way too broken to have around in a team based battle.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#33034: Oct 6th 2018 at 9:31:19 AM

Buu's very hard to harm even by people in his weight class due to his soft body also being very durable. That's before adding his insane level of regeneration that has only be countered by people who can atomize him, which basically means he couldn't defeat anyone that could do that to him anyway.

We see this with Beerus (couldn't defeat him anyway) and Basil (in Buu's class, but lacked the tools to deal with his defenses).

That's before adding his Candy Beam, which would allow him to clean house at the Champa Tournament and Tournament of Power before going down to people who Buu couldn't defeat anyway (Hit, Kefla, Anriza, Toppo, Jiren).

Oh yes, I forgot his Healing Hands. Even if you disagree with what I said above, that's definitely a no-no in an contest of endurance.

Edited by VeryMelon on Oct 6th 2018 at 12:32:57 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#33035: Oct 6th 2018 at 9:58:13 AM

Really Buu being so overpowered he’s unusable is on the writer’s.

They could try to come up with a situation or fighter that limits Buu’s OP-ness but they don’t.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33036: Oct 6th 2018 at 10:19:10 AM

But then it would just be the case where every time Buu gets to do something, he immediately gets taken out by someone else who can conveniently counter all his abilities.

So basically, keeping Buu around was a massive mistake. What they should have done is kill both Fat and Kid Buu in the final battle—the latter sacrifices himself to hold the former down in the Spirit Bomb ala Good and Evil 21—then bring in Uub, and have Satan befriend him as a sort of continuation of his friendship with Fat Buu.

I can't fault Toriyama for not thinking that far ahead, because he never intended to come back to Dragonball.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#33037: Oct 6th 2018 at 10:59:43 AM

Why are people forgetting that Boo can be beaten to the point of fatigue?

He doesn't have limitless stamina, people stronger than him can just beat him down....

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33038: Oct 6th 2018 at 11:06:12 AM

True.

And it's been shown that the candy beam can be dodged.

Still, that's kinda making him like everyone else too: Just be stronger than him and he's not a threat.

Also, while he's stamina isn't limitless, it's not exactly easily used up either. So far only Kid Buu and Beerus have beaten him to the point where he couldn't keep fighting back anymore. How many others do you think could do that?

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#33039: Oct 6th 2018 at 11:08:45 AM

Does Roshi appear in Bojack Unbound?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33040: Oct 6th 2018 at 11:09:21 AM

No.

why do you ask?

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#33041: Oct 6th 2018 at 11:10:44 AM

I just want to know what was he doing the day Krillin and his gf were "relieving stress" and if he was around in Bojack, they could joke about that.

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#33042: Oct 6th 2018 at 1:05:21 PM

I like to imagine that he, having a feeling that 18 was gonna have a fun time with Krillin, left to go on a 'training retreat' and then he went and hid in USS M'Dick and witnessed the action from afar.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Oct 6th 2018 at 4:05:02 AM

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#33043: Oct 6th 2018 at 1:33:40 PM

Answers on:

  • Buu
  • Bojack
  • Kai
  • Hellsing Ultimate Abridged
  • Other World Tournament
  • Gohan in High School
  • Scheduling
  • Multiverse Theory - I mean Trunks time travel

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Oct 6th 2018 at 3:40:14 AM

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#33044: Oct 6th 2018 at 1:35:54 PM

[up][up] I guess Oolong went there too, since most of the time he lives with Roshi.

[up] So i guess Trunks epilogue will drop after D Bcember

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#33045: Oct 6th 2018 at 1:37:10 PM

I mean, I'm sure he has other friends like Puar, Yamcha, or Bulma. Maybe he was visiting them that day?

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#33046: Oct 6th 2018 at 1:41:06 PM

They say they DO plan to do the Other World Tournament. They also say that most of Season 4 will be released in batches instead of releasing an episode as soon as it's done.

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#33047: Oct 6th 2018 at 1:42:38 PM

[up][up] Maybe, but if he is with Roshi then he can ask Oolong how it feels to be riding M'Dick

Edited by fasoman1996 on Oct 6th 2018 at 5:43:17 AM

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#33048: Oct 6th 2018 at 5:43:51 PM

Huh. Y'know, I hadn't thought of it, but the Candy Beam would make short work of the Tournament of Power. We already know it can be multi-targeted. Buu could have wiped the field of anyone who isn't in goddamn Vegetto's weight class five seconds after the tournament started.

It wouldn't beat everyone, but it would mean most of the combatants are down instantly.

I figured Buu was conveniently written out because Toriyama just didn't like the character very much, but y'all are right. He is a Story-Breaker Power.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 6th 2018 at 6:43:40 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#33050: Oct 6th 2018 at 6:21:15 PM

And then Zen'o gets bored and erases Buu from existence.

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