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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#33001: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:25:39 AM

Looking back on it, Goten wasn’t particularly stupid in Z as much as he is more childish (whereas Goku was initially feral and had no idea how the world worked) and had a “follower” personality where he rarely thought for himself.

They’ve since outright dropped a lot of his more childish traits in favor of making him more precociously sensible in Super. Which, amusingly, coincides with him being out of focus.

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#33002: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:29:18 AM

What kind of voices do you expect for the characters yet to be introduced?

I heard Kaiser was going to do Buu but i don't know how is that going to pan out.

And i wonder of Masakox is going to do Goten.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Oct 4th 2018 at 2:28:47 PM

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#33003: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:31:02 AM

Not sure how they may handle teen Gohan, with his VA now being full pro...

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#33004: Oct 4th 2018 at 11:28:13 AM

I'm pretty sure he is still working with TFS considering he is Cloud in FFVII Machinabridged.

Another random voice idea i had is Marron's voice being Amber Lee Connors doing an impression of Abridged Krillin

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#33005: Oct 5th 2018 at 9:03:34 AM

Just because they are full pro doesn't mean they don't do web shows and such. Kira Buckland still does projects with TFS (She is Aerith in FFVIIM and Heinkel in HUA, after all). It's just that they now typically get paid to do so when they aren't Doing It for the Art.

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#33006: Oct 5th 2018 at 11:33:31 AM

Kaiser and Lani talk about the new trailer

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#33007: Oct 5th 2018 at 11:41:25 AM

I feel they don't want to do Bojack just because after that is finished the "When Broly?" comments will return.

Also, little hint from Lani that he wants to do something with the otherworld tournament. Hmmm....

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#33008: Oct 5th 2018 at 11:43:47 AM

I'd be surprised if he didn't. If Garlic Jr. warranted an episode dedicated to how much nobody f*cking cares about the Garlic Jr. arc, then there's no reason not to give one or two to Dai Kaio's tournament.

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#33009: Oct 5th 2018 at 11:49:31 AM

[up] To be fair, most of that episode was about Krillin and his new "love". Garlic Jr is a footnote.

I'd compare more to Fake Namek. Who also got its own episode!

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#33010: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:20:23 PM

[up] Yeah, that's apt. Garlic Jr. was an arc turned into a fifteen second joke (which is a shame in my opinion. Would've been nice to see other characters DO stuff). I would call what they did with Garlic Jr. very much NOT doing anything with it.

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#33011: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:56:14 PM

Which is fine.

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#33012: Oct 5th 2018 at 2:26:35 PM

Hey Furture Trunks pulling a Barry & causing a time-boom, totally causing changes in the continuity makes sense.

I’m totally head-canoning that now. tongue

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#33013: Oct 5th 2018 at 2:28:47 PM

No.

Trunks was only trying to fix his shit Future and he had no other options.

I like Barry, and I get why he did what he did back at the end of Season 2, but don't compare them at all.

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#33014: Oct 5th 2018 at 2:39:39 PM

It doesn’t matter.

How justified his reasons are is irrelavent.

He messed with that the time-stream & that has consequences.

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#33015: Oct 5th 2018 at 2:43:31 PM

You talking about Barry there, because I stand by the headcanon that the Speedforce just enjoys being a dick to him.

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#33016: Oct 5th 2018 at 3:15:45 PM

Considering all the shit it let Thawne get away with (only punished by taking away his powers, which resulted in him just causing more shit to get them back) I can buy that.

Plus, what happened to Trunks wasn't a result of dicking with time (at least not completely) but rather because Goku Black / Zamasu / Fused Zamasu / Wallpaper Zamasu / Zamasu Gundan is a massive prick who takes what Trunks did and used it as a excuse to scratch is genocide itch.

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#33017: Oct 5th 2018 at 3:26:32 PM

Trunks is a series of unfortunate events.

An asshole doctor creates two asshole androids, so our poor Trunky has to go back in time to save his friends. Turns out those asshole androids aren't quite the assholes in the new timeline (And stronger for some reason) and then an even bigger asshole android shows up and causes more problems. Also his dad is an asshole

Then he returns to his time, kills all the asshole androids and is done so. Until an asshole Goku shows up. Said asshole Goku is actually an asshole kai and in the end, poor trunky is crying because everyone important to him is dead.

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#33018: Oct 5th 2018 at 5:38:01 PM

Honestly, the whole Zamasu thing just felt like a really obnoxious attempt at "fixing" the Android arc. Like Toriyama decided that it was totally uncool for Trunks to have to go back to his broken timeline, so he introduced Zamasu as a roundabout way to remove Multiverse Theory from canon and shunt him over into the fixed future instead.

Zamasu's entire purpose as a character was simply to exterminate Trunks's timeline so that it can never be used again, and then be erased from existence by a Deus ex Machina as soon as it was done.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 5th 2018 at 6:37:59 AM

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#33019: Oct 5th 2018 at 7:55:13 PM

[up]

Then that's a fucking stupid reason.

I mean, Trunks already ended his story. He won. He lost a lot (like his version of Gohan) but he'd done it: he stopped his version of the Androids and even prevented Cell from being a thing. His story was done, and he'd triumphed.

The Zamasu story...it stole that from him. All of it. And while I like the anime version more than I should, I fully acknowledge that it was likely worse about it, since it let him believe he'd managed to somehow pull off the victory, only to then snatch it from in the most mean spirited way possible.

The manga wasn't much better: all the humans except Mai just got killed off offscreen as though they were an afterthought (which isn't a shock, because Earth and it's people don't really matter at all anymore, and haven't since the series went to space, barring their joining in on killing Majin Buu—which happened because he just didn't want to let Gohan do it), but at least the manga didn't pretend Trunks had won only to go ''neener! neener! You still lost! Now go fuck yourself!

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#33020: Oct 5th 2018 at 7:57:46 PM

That's why i'm curious about the epilogue. What if TFS plans to do something about Zamasu? (Since they said they aren't abridging Super)

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#33021: Oct 5th 2018 at 8:13:37 PM

Question, how did the whole Goku Black arc actually end? My understanding was that after all was said and done, Trunks' universe was put back into place, or at least a copy of it, where he could live with everyone who was still alive then and life could go on. Did I miss a meeting somewhere?

I hate a Happy Ending Override much as the next guy, but the way I understood it he got his happy ending back

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 5th 2018 at 9:28:30 AM

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#33022: Oct 5th 2018 at 8:30:46 PM

[up]His universe got erased and it never came back. He and Mai were put into a different timeline that already had its own versions of Trunks and Mai and they just had to deal with it. It might look the same but it still isn't really his per se.

Edited by LordVatek on Oct 5th 2018 at 11:33:33 AM

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#33023: Oct 5th 2018 at 8:34:29 PM

The actual reason people didn't like the that particular development is that there's simply no reason to have done that if you're just going to plop him in an identical timeline. It defeats the point of destroying his.

There's also the general feeling that the arc is so self-contained it might as well not have happened at all. At least in the original manga the status quo changes were apparent and long reaching.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#33024: Oct 5th 2018 at 9:27:20 PM

If anything, I think he should have just stayed in the normal timeline. If you're gonna bring back Future Trunks at least do it for a reason.

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#33025: Oct 5th 2018 at 9:34:01 PM

He probably should've died...

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