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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32651: Sep 24th 2018 at 8:39:37 AM

Not really, coz then he'd not be able to regenerate his non-Namekian cells. Heck, his Zenkai wouldn't affect his non-Saiyan cells. And only the Freeza/Cold parts of him would transform.

I didnt say it made any sense. I'm saying it's what every bit of information about Cell says constantly and consistently.

Cells containing the fused DNA of each of his sample. Ergo spliced. :-P

Even if we take FighterZ as a valid source of info, "fused cells" is still a different thing from gene splicing and LEGO Genetics.

If anything it reminds me of mitochondria. And how mitochondria have their own DNA separate from the rest of the cell.

I think what it might be is that Cell's cells are almost a sort of. "Super-cell". With the cells of his components inside.

No fucking clue how that works, but it's the only explanation that comes to mind that's consistent with the other descriptions.

Or, maybe his cells are a redundant cancerous mess, with separate nuclei from all of his donors, each of which is coding RNA and then proteins for their own organelles in the same cell.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 24th 2018 at 12:00:20 PM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#32652: Sep 24th 2018 at 8:40:43 AM

Toriyama pretty much uses cells as people with some knowledge of biology would use DNA.

Just like Super Saiyan being linked to a gene expression makes fucking sense.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32653: Sep 24th 2018 at 8:44:42 AM

Speaking of Super Saiyans, I was browsing the Dragon Ball wiki and saw something about S-cells.

Apparently a Saiyan with a pure heart has a higher concentration of those S-cells, and the concentration of S-cells in a Saiyans body goes up as that Saiyan's power level increases, and the higher the concentration of S-cells the easier it is to attain the Super Saiyan transformation the first time.

None of which makes any sense in biology, but.

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#32654: Sep 24th 2018 at 10:21:06 AM

You think the Future Trunks epilogue might have nods towards Babidi/Dabura and Goku Black?

Or might TFS try to give Future Trunks a happy ending? Because the poor guy deserves it.

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#32655: Sep 24th 2018 at 10:59:41 AM

A happy ending?

How can you get happier than him beating both the androids and Cell?

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#32656: Sep 24th 2018 at 11:02:18 AM

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Well, clearly Toriyama didn't excel (no pun intended) at Biology.

[up]Because Super! THAT'S FUCKING WHY!

Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 24th 2018 at 12:05:02 PM

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#32657: Sep 24th 2018 at 11:03:07 AM

Well not having everything ruined again by Zamasu.

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#32658: Sep 24th 2018 at 11:04:47 AM

Why would they reference that?

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#32660: Sep 24th 2018 at 11:06:32 AM

Didn't that still end up at a happy ending overall for Trunks?

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#32661: Sep 24th 2018 at 11:07:15 AM

[up][up]Yeah, but that was in a movie and in context of the present.

They could do that, but nothing about what happened to Future Trunks in Super can be referenced and make sense.

Edited by randomness4 on Sep 24th 2018 at 11:06:42 AM

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#32662: Sep 24th 2018 at 11:07:27 AM

They gave Android 16 a happy ending, even if a bit bittersweet. I can see them giving Trunks a happy end too, besides that the epilogue doesn't seem to be too long when you consider that it only has Trunks killing the androids and Cell.

That, and they have no plans for Super, yet. They could maybe have Zamasu bite it before anything bad happens.

[up][up] At best, it was an Esoteric Happy Ending

Edited by fasoman1996 on Sep 24th 2018 at 3:07:26 PM

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#32663: Sep 24th 2018 at 11:28:25 AM

Over on youtube I'm subscribed to TeamFourStar. Thing is, a few days ago, as far as my settings are concerned, the channel has no name when it appears on the left hand side bar. There's an icon, but next to it there's no name. And it's only like this on the left hand bar, the actual channel is fine. Is this a problem for anyone else or just me?

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#32664: Sep 24th 2018 at 12:36:12 PM

wild mass guessThe reason Cell was initially a failure and took 17 years to finalize was because the computer, after exhausting every possible interpretation of Dr. Gero's original schematics, finally realized that Gero didn't know a goddamn thing about biology and auto-corrected "cells" to "DNA".wild mass guess

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#32665: Sep 24th 2018 at 12:41:33 PM

Dr. Gero is certainly an eccentric fellow. Quirky Android designs, calling Cyborg "Androids" because he wanted to be consistent and had numerous secret projects waiting to be developed by his supercomputer. It's a marvel that machine hasn't broken after all the stupid shit Gero made it do.

And i wouldn't be surprised that in a future arc, the good Doctor Gero has another secret project that he somehow hid in another lab. I would say Android 21, but that's not canon (yet)

Edited by fasoman1996 on Sep 24th 2018 at 4:45:41 PM

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32666: Sep 24th 2018 at 12:48:04 PM

I mean, Android 21 actually makes more sense with "cells" instead of "DNA", because if I'm interpreting the plot correctly based on the English localization, she wasn't made from scratch by gene manipulation, but instead by adding cells to a prexisting human body.

In that light, Cell's bullshit starts to seem like a proof of concept or a prototype. An experiment or test case. "If I can make all these cells from different sources work together I can then from there combine cells with my dead waifu to fix her".

EDIT: Also, either Gero's a cradle robber, his wife died young, (possibly in childbirth, assuming 16 was a lifesize model of their son then goddamn that baby was jacked) or there's a parallel between Gero and Abridged!Dr. Brief.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 24th 2018 at 3:56:44 PM

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#32667: Sep 24th 2018 at 1:21:13 PM

I dunno, I can buy human 21 as looking in her late 30s to early 40s, and who knows what Buu's cells did to her aging process. It's possible she looked much older before she was transformed into Android 21.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 24th 2018 at 1:20:41 AM

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32668: Sep 24th 2018 at 1:26:45 PM

The glimpses we get of human Gero look like he's in his 60s or 70s, and his Android 20 body looks about the same age too, so.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32669: Sep 24th 2018 at 1:29:10 PM

Well Gero doesn't make a lot of sense (the only reason he still looks like an old man when he could have given himself a younger body is because shut up! That's why!), So I'm not gonna get stuck on the logistics of why him and 21 and 16 have the physical appearances they do.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32670: Sep 24th 2018 at 1:33:23 PM

I mean, I still dont get how either Buu's cells or his DNA wouldnt just become another Buu. Whichever Buu they came from, Fat, Evil, Super or Kid.

Presumably Gero's computer Also got brought back when they wished back the Earth. With the cities and cars and Arale and Eighter.

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#32671: Sep 24th 2018 at 1:33:52 PM

He spent more time trying to patch out the T.H. software for Android 13 that he didn't care to give himself a younger body.

Also, Evil Old Folks

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#32672: Sep 24th 2018 at 1:33:53 PM

[up][up][up]Is it actually hard to accept that Gero could have simply liked how he looked late in life? Because that actually strikes me as fairly ageist to say he couldn't.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 24th 2018 at 3:33:35 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32673: Sep 24th 2018 at 1:36:05 PM

[up]...

I admit, I never considered that. I mean, I'm mostly working on a meta reasoning, but in universe, Gero being fine with his old looks isn't out of the question.

And 21 wasn't created by Toriyama (though he drew up her design), so the difference in age might just be...due to that thing where female characters (barring Chi-Chi and Bulma) just aren't allowed to actually age.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32674: Sep 24th 2018 at 1:37:11 PM

Bulma looks younger in Super than she did in the Buu Saga.

Also, I'm curious, did Arcsys actually come up with Android 21 on their own?

Because the stuff about 16 being based on Gero's son was from Toriyama stuff years ago.

I find it weird to imagine the game developers deciding to take that information and then push it further and adding 16's mom without, I dunno, saying something.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 24th 2018 at 4:38:59 AM

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#32675: Sep 24th 2018 at 1:38:44 PM

I know Abridged Panchy is just one in a series of clones, but I'm positive that canon Panchy uses a shit-ton of plastic surgery to look as young as she does. She has the money for it.


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