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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#32501: Sep 19th 2018 at 1:21:51 PM

Demon King Piccolo's children were basically mutant demon things. You shouldn't apply what went for them to normal Namekians.

Counterpoint: find me a single Namekian that isn't born with information directly in his brain.

I'll wait.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32502: Sep 19th 2018 at 1:21:55 PM

I thought one of the things with the Dragon Clan is that they can make eggs and the Warrior Clan were sterile. King Piccolo and Kami were both Dragon Clan.

King Piccolo was weaker than Piccolo Jr. even to begin with, and Piccolo Jr. got a lot stronger.

[up] Dende, the Nameless Namekian, Moori, Guru and Nail.

You can't proof they had information in their brains when they were born, therefore they didn't.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 19th 2018 at 4:26:37 AM

Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#32503: Sep 19th 2018 at 4:01:12 PM

I keep listening to that cover of My Way.

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Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#32504: Sep 19th 2018 at 5:40:10 PM

It's a perfect sendoff. I don't think they'll be able to top Cell in the villain department. But then again, I felt the same way after the Freeza saga, so who knows? Maybe Buu will be amazing.

It's been 3000 years…
randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#32505: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:07:17 PM

Boo's already better than Cell, so they won't have much trouble.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#32506: Sep 19th 2018 at 11:12:14 PM

Cell was perfect 👌 so it’ll be hard to top him.

Buu’s got to pull out all the stops, all four of him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#32507: Sep 19th 2018 at 11:52:27 PM

And now Cell fights Bulma.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32508: Sep 20th 2018 at 6:54:25 AM

Well, that's not right.

Vegeta's not supposed to get any satisfaction from anything.

Though yeah, it's totally in Bulma's character to use him for her evil schemes...even against other villains.

It might be hard without a time machine though.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#32509: Sep 20th 2018 at 6:59:25 AM

I was expecting her to drop 16's nuke on him.

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 20th 2018 at 10:03:29 AM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#32510: Sep 20th 2018 at 7:02:49 AM

I wonder if the 4th season will lampshade Bulma's status as the true villain? tongue

Uni cat
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32511: Sep 20th 2018 at 11:03:01 AM

Doesnt quite become relevant until Zamasu, or at least Battle of Gods.

People are starving in Uub's village and Bulma gathers the Dragon Balls for a bingo tournament.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#32513: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:04:10 PM

I wish the Shadow Dragons were in Super. I still think those were superior villains, even if the execution was screwy.

It's been 3000 years…
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#32514: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:08:20 PM

Outside of a few, most of the dragons were cannon fodder. Nuova Shenron was cool tho.

That and the tuffles is one of the few things i want canon Dragon Ball to cover more. At least the Broly move implies that something about the Tuffles may be shown

Uni cat
randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#32515: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:10:58 PM

Not design wise...3 of them weren't even dragons.

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Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#32516: Sep 20th 2018 at 12:41:14 PM

[up][up]That's what I meant by "The execution was shoddy."

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#32517: Sep 20th 2018 at 1:58:13 PM

I wish the Shadow Dragons were in Super. I still think those were superior villains, even if the execution was screwy.

I used to like the idea of the Shadow Dragons but I've soured on it over the years. Their existence completely undermines the entire point of God restoring Shenron at the end of the Piccolo Daimao arc.

After Piccolo was defeated, Goku asked God to restore Shenron. God states that it was actually his intent to leave Shenron dead. He's displeased with how the world has behaved around the Dragon Balls and had become convinced that Shenron has done more harm than good. However, Goku's pure desire to help others convinces him that restoring Shenron is a worthy deed if it means people like Goku and his friends may use his power.

You can see how this doesn't exactly gel with the Shadow Dragons arc being like, "This is karmic justice for Goku and his friends ABUSING THE DRAGON BALLS".

Not to mention it kind of mushes the original Shenron and Dende's Shenron together for the sake of having seven wishes to make Dragons of.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#32518: Sep 20th 2018 at 2:05:54 PM

Well the Piccolo arc was back before death started to mean nothing, so of course it doesn't line up with what Dragonball became.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#32519: Sep 20th 2018 at 2:16:33 PM

I've come to understand that people only like the Shadow Dragons because they like the idea of the Dragon Balls having consequences, but never put more thought into it than that. No one I've seen ever takes into account information like what Tobias just said, they just like this really cool idea and want it now.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#32520: Sep 20th 2018 at 2:22:16 PM

Saying death stopped meaning anything doesn't actually line up with any part of Dragon Ball.

Edit: Or rather, it's meaning never really changed.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 20th 2018 at 4:37:25 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32521: Sep 20th 2018 at 2:51:19 PM

I used to like the idea of the Shadow Dragons

Heck Yeah! Preach it Tobias!

but I've soured on it over the years.

What? Is this that thing about how it doesn't make sense for the Kaioshin to have said nothing about it or something like that, or how silly it is that the most evil dragons came from wishes that were actually more benevolent, because Rob don't care about that. Give me a new argument here!

Their existence completely undermines the entire point of God restoring Shenron at the end of the Piccolo Daimao arc.

.....um....

After Piccolo was defeated, Goku asked God to restore Shenron. God states that it was actually his intent to leave Shenron dead. He's displeased with how the world has behaved around the Dragon Balls and had become convinced that Shenron has done more harm than good. However, Goku's pure desire to help others convinces him that restoring Shenron is a worthy deed if it means people like Goku and his friends may use his power.

Oh right. That.

You can see how this doesn't exactly gel with the Shadow Dragons arc being like, "This is karmic justice for Goku and his friends ABUSING THE DRAGON BALLS".

Ha...so, you see...

Not to mention it kind of mushes the original Shenron and Dende's Shenron together for the sake of having seven wishes to make Dragons of.

Ok, I'll be fine as long as no one...

I've come to understand that people only like the Shadow Dragons because they like the idea of the Dragon Balls having consequences, but never put more thought into it than that. No one I've seen ever takes into account information like what Tobias just said, they just like this really cool idea and want it now.

Shit! <Throws down a smoke bomb and flees>

One Strip! One Strip!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#32522: Sep 20th 2018 at 2:59:19 PM

So basically just give them a better execution?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#32523: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:09:58 PM

Death doesn't matter ever since Namekian Dragon Balls have been introduced. Or Whis time manipulation.

Except if you are Android 16. You stay dead because you have no soul.

It isn't because Toriyama forgot about you. Or that Android 8 was revived that time Buu killed everyone. Or that they have to come up with an excuse to write out a character

Uni cat
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32524: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:13:26 PM

To be fair on Android 8, the planet blew up, and when they wished back the Earth it came back with all the cities and aircars and everything.

Eighter might just count as being equivalent to a rock. Or a shoe.

He probably survived the Human Extinction Attack along with 17, then died when the planet blew up, then came back with the planet. Had to wait like a minute for the people to come back.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 20th 2018 at 6:20:20 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#32525: Sep 20th 2018 at 3:14:11 PM

Did anyone else suddenly have a text color change?

Edit: And also now I can't see my own messages for some reason.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 20th 2018 at 5:17:05 AM


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