Dragon Ball Z Abridged

I mean, Yamcha did attack to steal people's stuff. And kill them if necessary. If only by leaving them without any food, water, money, clothing, shelter or transportation in the desert.

At least until he finally goes through character development and becomes a lot less of a total Jerkass and more of a Jerk with a Heart of Gold.

EDIT: Got Ninja'ed. This was meant for the page closer.

Edited by Rytex on Sep 17th 2018 at 10:45:51 AM

Ok, so Yamcha was an antagonist in the very early stages.

So Krillin is the odd duck out

Krillin being an odd duck is perfectly in character for him. He even pretended to be one to 16.

I mean, Krillin is the closest thing to an antagonist the training with Roshi sequence had.

That and Roshi's perversion and Launch sneezing.

But I would definitely put Krillin more in the "rival" category even at first. Everyone else starts at villain before moving to rival.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 17th 2018 at 11:49:39 AM

Ten moved to rival for one fight...replaced by Yajirobe.

Edited by randomness4 on Sep 17th 2018 at 8:50:16 AM

The elusive space duck trick. It is said to only works on aliens and robots

Krillin is a master of stealth after all

Hey, you know how Cell came back from the dead there? Well, while he did explain how he survived the explosion and regenerated into his Super Perfect form, he completely forgot to mention how he was able to return from Otherworld using the Instant Transmission move he just learned.

Also if the Nucleus is the core of Cell's being, and its in his head, how did he survive Goku vaporising the top of his body?

And if Any Cell of Cell's can regenerate him, why aren't there other Cells around from each time he's bled, or when 16 ripped off his tail.

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 17th 2018 at 12:07:41 PM

Two answers:

1) Plot Hole.

2) It moved on it's own without Cell knowing.

As for the Z Warriors and their morality: Yamcha was a desert bandit who robbed and possibly killed people. Krillin was just a jerk. Tien was training to be an assassin, but we don't know if he hurt anyone in Manga canon (he did cause some shit in the anime however, and it comes up during his dragon ball hunt with Roshi), Piccolo and Vegeta...n'uff said. Buu is complicated, in that depending on which version, how aware he is of how wrong his actions are (and how much he cares) varies.

Krillin himself lampshades all of this after they met Trunks, noting that even he hated Goku at first.

Tien breaks Yamcha's leg in the manga at the end of their fight, which is basically his Establishing Character Moment. It's clearly unnecessary since Tien had already basically defeated Yamcha by that point; so I wouldn't say Tien never hurts anyone in the manga.

Krillin is the least bad, but he's still a sneak and a cheat when we first meet him (and notably his heart is impure enough for him to fall through Kinton when he tries to ride it).

Edited by Sigilbreaker26 on Sep 17th 2018 at 4:41:30 PM

Oh, there's no doubt he's a prick. The influence of Tao and Shen was strong, but it didn't take much to move him away from that, and while the anime adds a few more rotten stunts (like that dude he meets that he hurt while he, Roshi and Chiaotzu are hunting dragon balls), it's never made clear if he ever went beyond that.

For all we know, Yamcha could have a higher kill count.

True, though I'd argue that Yamcha took a lot less to move him away from evil - basically just getting a girlfriend - whereas Roshi has to make a concerted effort to redeem Tien in the 22nd Budokai.

Rate the Z Fighters from easiest to hardest to be redeemed.

Yajirobe

Yamcha

Krillin

Tien

Piccolo

Vegeta

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 17th 2018 at 1:03:30 PM

Yajirobe didn't have to be redeemed.

Then there's Bulma and Frieza, who still haven't been redeemed yet.

Yajirobe started hostile to Goku. they fought over a fish.

Karrot ate his fish, they had a test of strength more than a fight, then they had a race...

Still. If Krillin counts as hostile, so does Yajirobe

And there's a reason he's dead bottom at easiest redeemed :-P

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 17th 2018 at 1:06:54 PM

Buu is hard to rank.

Like. Satan redeemed him pretty early on. But then, Super Buu might not have happened if not for Satan befriending Fat Buu.

And what does Uub even count as for Kid Buu.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 17th 2018 at 1:07:47 PM

How many people has fat Buu killed?

Does it consider his original self kill count?

Well at least one planet of those people were ultimately revived.