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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32276: Sep 16th 2018 at 6:51:47 PM

Roshi is one in a long line of anime Pervy Old Men who express their perviness via sexual harassment and/or assault. Japan really f*cking loves the archetype of horny old men who don't care about consent. They find it hilarious.

As with many things, the anime is worse than the manga. Though in this case, it's not because they added anything to Roshi's character, necessarily. It's more because the wealth of filler allows us to spend time with Roshi in contexts other than being a martial arts instructor or saving the world - the only contexts in which he is not a terrible person to be around.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#32277: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:01:34 PM

Roshi is pretty much just not around a lot in the Z period in the manga and in the OG Dragonball it would usually be funny because he would either immediately recieve his comeuppance from it (for example, he uses the microband to spy on Bulma in the toilet and then falls in) or his attentions were the comeuppance for someone else, generally Bulma being an asshole in the first arc.

[up]x4 Unless Roshi really was going to rape her, even if she had some reason to think he did that's still technically a misconception. This is being pedantic anyway; long and short of it is, what the fuck Toei.

Edited by Sigilbreaker26 on Sep 16th 2018 at 2:11:31 PM

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32278: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:04:26 PM

I mean, even when Bulma deserves comeuppance, that's not exactly an appropriate or acceptable form of comeuppance.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#32279: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:07:26 PM

It's been a while since I read the very first arc, but Bulma basically offers to show her chest to Roshi for some favour (I think it was a Dragonball), but reneges on the deal and forces Oolong to transform into her and show them to Roshi. Oolong then screws her over by basically letting Roshi motorboat... him.

Also, a reminder that this is the same Bulma who tried to use sexual manipulation on Kid Goku, who was not only 12 at the time but also didn't know what girls were.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#32280: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:08:32 PM

I mean, Bulma being a terrible person doesn't somehow make sexual harassment and/or assault of her okay.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#32281: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:08:46 PM

...Man, a lot of people in early dragon ball were kinda shitheads, weren't they?

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#32282: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:09:55 PM

Japan really f*cking loves the archetype of horny old men who don't care about consent. They find it hilarious.

Japan finds sex, especially forced where one partner pervs on the other, hilarious.

It's in no way limited to old men.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32283: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:10:17 PM

They still kinda are. Its just less obvious sometimes...and only sometimes.

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#32284: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:10:34 PM

I'd prefer if we talked about who could play Buu, especially since this is the Abridged thread.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#32285: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:12:10 PM

I'd prefer if we talked about who could play Buu, especially since this is the Abridged thread.

It's gonna be whoever they are going to cast in the role. There. Solved your question.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32286: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:13:09 PM

All I know is that Handsome Rob is ready to answer the call.cool

Admit it. Y'all know you want it.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#32287: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:13:36 PM

I don't know your vocal range. So no?

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#32288: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:14:44 PM

No wait, I reread the part in question, and yeah Roshi's being much more of a dick. He wants to touch her chest in return for putting out the fire, which is of the house of his own student, and Bulma goes through with the deal (which she later, more understandably reneges on) because there's a dragonball inside which she wants.

But then she forces Oolong to do it instead, and that's where... yeah. So I guess they all get what they deserve. Roshi gets to motorboat a Pigman's fake boobs for being an asshole, and Bulma gets humiliated for enslaving Oolong.

Gosh, Dragonball actually got less wierd as it went on.

Edited by Sigilbreaker26 on Sep 16th 2018 at 2:16:57 PM

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
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#32289: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:14:47 PM

Roshi is one in a long line of anime Pervy Old Men who express their perviness via sexual harassment and/or assault. Japan really f*cking loves the archetype of horny old men who don't care about consent. They find it hilarious.

Then again, they find it just as hilarious when the pervert in question gets the shit beaten out of them... even if they didn't mean it. (Check that; especially if they didn't mean it.)

Roshi himself has been on the receiving end of Pervert Revenge Mode a few times. Case in point...

Edited by TyeDyeWildebeest on Sep 16th 2018 at 10:15:18 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32290: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:15:53 PM

I don't know your vocal range. So no?

You sir, are banned.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#32291: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:16:05 PM

Roshi himself has been on the receiving end of that a few times. Case in point...

Too distracted by Roshi motorboating 18 in front of her smiling daughter.

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#32292: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:19:07 PM

All I know is that Handsome Rob is ready to answer the call. Admit it. Y'all know you want it.

All I Know Is: My Gut Says 'Maybe'. tongue

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#32293: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:24:31 PM

To Dragonball's (Very slight, nearly non-existent) defense. Early Dragonball, besides being an obvious parody of Journey to the west, takes a lot of cues from 70s Kung Fu films. Especially a lot of the sort coming out of Hong Kong. And in such films, the "Wise Martial Arts Master who has some sort of crippling personality flaw" is a super common trope. Usually it's Alcoholism (Queue Overlap with Drunken Master). With Japan's love of "Perverts are Funny"note , Toriyama's decision to make Roshi a pervert makes sense.

If you're inspiring yourself from Kung Fu films, and targetting a Japanese Audience's sensibilities (Especially when it comes to humor) it's kinda genius? Clearly he's not the only one who liked it - see Ranma's Happosai.

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 16th 2018 at 10:26:33 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#32294: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:34:50 PM

Roshi really is a fucking moron.

I mean 18 can snap his neck like twig & yet he still does it.

No amount of perversion can justify such stupidity.

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Weirdguy149 The Camp Crystal Lake Slasher from A cabin in the woods Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#32295: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:35:38 PM

For who'd voice Majin Buu, since South Supreme Kai (the guy Kid Buu absorbs to become Fat Buu) looks like Android 16, I'm inclined to believe that it'd be Remix, minus the robotic filter of course.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#32296: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:38:27 PM

Kid Buu didn't become Fat Buu by absorbing South Supreme Kai, that made him Buff Buu.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#32297: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:39:58 PM

Everything is wrong.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#32298: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:42:44 PM

[up][up] I'm pretty sure he got to Fat Buu by absorbing a Kai.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#32299: Sep 16th 2018 at 7:44:01 PM

South Supreme Kai made him Buff Buu

Daikaioh / Grand Supreme Kai made him Fat Buu

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 16th 2018 at 10:43:55 AM

Weirdguy149 The Camp Crystal Lake Slasher from A cabin in the woods Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The Camp Crystal Lake Slasher
#32300: Sep 16th 2018 at 8:14:19 PM

In that case, based on the Yajirobe voice, looks like it's Kaiser Neko's turn. I'm fine with this.

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