Perpetually Confused
They can train their eyes to see things that move faster than the speed of light (IE: The thing that eyes use to see). Why wouldn't they be able to make their eyes immune to glaring?
I don't think it's ever been confirmed that they are moving faster than light most of the time (that was a dub line) and the implication (at least originally) is that they aren't actually following the people moving to fast to normally see with their eyes.
But even if they did, that would just make me thing they're making their eyes more sensitive to bright light, not less.
Edited by LSBK on Sep 15th 2018 at 3:46:35 AM
Lazy in the sense that no other words exist apparently.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Lazy in the sense that he's barely even that...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.When Raditz arrived he said he was part of the "Planet Trade" where they wiped out local inhabitants of a planet, then sold them. Was that a dub invention? Did that get retconned out when Freeza showed up and they were always conquering planets for him? Did Freeza ever sell a planet to someone? And, if so, who?
Edited by WillKeaton on Sep 15th 2018 at 3:07:48 AM
I believe way back when, Piccolo described it as following the energy they give off. The difference between that and actually following with the bare eye is noted in both versions of Resurrection F, where it's stated that Jaco is the only one following the battle with just his own eyesight.
This is made clear in the Universe 6 arc, where he's the only one who catches Frost cheating as well, and I believe he recognized that Hit was literally disappearing as opposed to just moving fast.
One Strip! One Strip!
...Shit. Now I gotta look up every single version of Piccolo's explanation of how they follow movements to Gohan.
I hate hard work.
Edit: So here it is:
So yeah. With the way that explanation works, I have no clue how they follow the movements of the Androids.
Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 15th 2018 at 3:32:10 AM
One Strip! One Strip!Huh. Yeah, that is a plot hole.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.One of my favorite Toei-only Super moves is the Solar Flare x100. Even if it failed specifically because its opponent was blind, it's still a cool as shit concept that neatly patches the holes in the original Solar Flare, namely that you can still sense people's ki through it and it doesn't last very long. I want Krillin to have it in every single game he's in for the future.
A move that shuts off the opponents super meter is such a no brainer (especially in Dragonball games, which naturally rely heavily on meter use) is such a no brainer that I’m surprised the games themselves haven’t invented one of their own yet.
I’d Fighter Z had come out a year later, I bet it would’ve been one of his super moves. That and the 18 + Krillin Accel Dance would’ve instead been the combo attack they do in the tournament.
In the show itself, I’m a little disappointed that it’s literally just the Solar Flare, but more (the tournament of power was full of that, and if anything the Solar Flare x100 was an early warning), but overall I like the idea and the scenes framing it.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 15th 2018 at 3:00:52 AM
For all the clear evidence of Toriyama not thinking ahead with DB, it's almost hard for me to believe that Freeza was an example. Because Raditz comes right out in the original manga and explains that he's in the business of trading planets to other races, which implied to me at least that he and the other Saiyans were working for someone else as part of a large organization. I guess Toriyama intended that they were just doing it on their own as a way of making of living with their race wiped out, but fighting the Saiyans and then the guy controlling the Saiyans always made so much sense to me that it's weird to think that it was retconned in.
@Tobias/Rob The characters can still track movememt with their eyes, that's what Freeza's forces do. But it's relative.
Furthermore Gero does say that the Z warriors are too dependent on ki sensing when he's evading Vegeta. So they're disadvantaged when relying on their eyesight alone.
On Cell being not able to tell Trunks/Tenshinhan apart: I'm pretty sure that's intended as Cell 100% snarking.
In canon, the characters can distinguish each other by ki over a distance, and even tell if they are evil. There can be similarities in ki - two Super Saiyans' ki feels similar to each other, for instance.
Cell wouldn't actually make that mistake if he was relying on ki instead of sight. Unless they're ignoring that fact to make that the joke.
Edited by Saiga on Sep 15th 2018 at 10:00:03 PM
Assume the "You" in that sentence is Toriyama, and Raditz' words are prophetic
@Saiga none of which explains how they percieve Androids moving faster than light.
Edited by Ghilz on Sep 15th 2018 at 8:04:31 AM
