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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32101: Sep 15th 2018 at 10:46:28 AM

If one was born at 30 seconds before midnight, and one was born about 30 seconds after, it would be possible, if only for that short period of time.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 15th 2018 at 11:46:09 AM

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#32102: Sep 15th 2018 at 10:50:00 AM

I would like for them to be at least mid-twenties or older, mainly because Krillin's 30.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32103: Sep 15th 2018 at 10:53:42 AM

I mean, from what I understand they'll be whatever age they were at when they were converted by Doctor Gero until the heat death of the universe.

No idea when Gero got them.

Could be fifty years ago for all I know.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 15th 2018 at 1:53:41 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#32104: Sep 15th 2018 at 10:54:10 AM

It should be noted that Earth is considered a backwater planet.

So if it wasn't for Goku maybe Frieza's Empire would have ignored it on the grounds of its worthless.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#32105: Sep 15th 2018 at 10:56:19 AM

Have they ever said that 17 and 18 stopped aging?

One other thing: Why does Gohan start wearing glasses later? Like, does he need them? Because I think he takes them off to fight.

[up]Backwater yes, but when Nappa went on his sightseeing tour he said it was nice planet and that they could get a good price for it.

Edited by WillKeaton on Sep 15th 2018 at 11:59:05 AM

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#32106: Sep 15th 2018 at 10:57:08 AM

Despite being such backwater planet the Saiyans still sent someone there so even if Frezia himself does not go someone else from this employment would be checking up on these missions eventually.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32107: Sep 15th 2018 at 10:57:16 AM

I mean, if they're reading glasses, I can buy all Saiyans needing them, because most Saiyans dont read.

Gohan does because of his vocation.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 15th 2018 at 1:57:47 PM

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#32108: Sep 15th 2018 at 10:58:14 AM

It's easier to see a dude throwing a Kamehameha at you than it is to read small text from 50 feet away.

Besides, taking them off to fight makes perfect sense. I take my glasses off whenever I'm in a situation that might result in punches being thrown. The last thing you want in a fight is jagged shards of broken glass in your eyes.

Plus, y'know, ki-sensing and all that so it's not like Gohan actually needs to be able to see his opponent at all.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 15th 2018 at 11:59:06 AM

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#32109: Sep 15th 2018 at 11:00:39 AM

There's a thing in Dragon Ball Minus where Frieza called back all the Saiyans to Vegeta, so Kakarot's mission was technically unofficial.

It does make a sense that Frieza would want them all on one planet so he could get them all at once.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 15th 2018 at 2:03:39 PM

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#32110: Sep 15th 2018 at 11:36:16 AM

Doesn't that contradict what Raditz said back in the beginning of the he Saiyan Saga?

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#32111: Sep 15th 2018 at 11:58:26 AM

Goku being sent to Earth to kill everyone on Earth and Goku's trip being unofficial are not mutually exclusive.

Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#32112: Sep 15th 2018 at 12:22:59 PM

It does make a sense that Frieza would want them all on one planet so he could get them all at once.
It makes zero sense since it's highly suspicious, is immediately followed by the planet being destroyed, and no one makes any connection, not even Vegeta, who's still shocked to hear Freeza had a hand in the planet's destruction 20+ years later.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#32113: Sep 15th 2018 at 12:30:30 PM

Shocked? He already knew...

And it literally doesn't matter how suspect it is, he's stronger than all of them...

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#32114: Sep 15th 2018 at 12:32:31 PM

I think the only one who was explicitly under a different opinion was Raditz, and Vegeta and Nappa likely lied to him to keep him under their thumb.

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Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#32115: Sep 15th 2018 at 12:42:54 PM

Shocked? He already knew...
No he didn't, outside of Toei filler.
And it literally doesn't matter how suspect it is, he's stronger than all of them...
Then why bother with the meteor story at all?

Edited by Kamiccolo on Sep 15th 2018 at 12:43:48 PM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#32116: Sep 15th 2018 at 12:46:19 PM

Because it doesn't matter.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#32117: Sep 15th 2018 at 12:46:42 PM

There's honestly no in-universe reason for the meteor story.

The actual out-of-universe reason is that Toriyama hadn't thought of Freeza yet. Why does Vegeta call himself the strongest in the universe when we first meet him? I guess ego is a plausible excuse in-universe. But out of universe, because Toriyama hadn't thought of Freeza yet.

Edited by Sigilbreaker26 on Sep 15th 2018 at 7:46:31 PM

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Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#32118: Sep 15th 2018 at 12:47:47 PM

[up][up]That's a reason not to fabricate a story.

Of course the real reason, as given in the original manga, is because he wanted to fool the remaining Saiyans into serving him, more specifically Vegeta, who he intentionally spared because he still had utility. Minus neglects that and makes everyone involved look like a dumbass. Especially Freeza and Vegeta.

Edited by Kamiccolo on Sep 15th 2018 at 12:48:15 PM

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#32119: Sep 15th 2018 at 1:16:47 PM

Except that runs counter to Freeza's general policy which is and has always been "serve me and you live". Vegeta, Nappa and especially Raditz were not important enough for Freeza to play a pantomime so that they served him.

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#32120: Sep 15th 2018 at 1:29:41 PM

Plus, y'know, ki-sensing and all that so it's not like Gohan actually needs to be able to see his opponent at all.

If that were true, Solar Flare wouldn't work as a stalling maneuver as consistently.

Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#32121: Sep 15th 2018 at 1:32:02 PM

Vegeta, Nappa and especially Raditz were not important enough for Freeza to play a pantomime so that they served him.
Except that's literally what he did. Stated right there in the original story.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#32122: Sep 15th 2018 at 1:32:31 PM

Even if you could still track people by ki, the Solar Flare still makes sense from a pain and disorientation from not being able to rely on your main sensory input anymore.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#32123: Sep 15th 2018 at 1:36:17 PM

[up][up] I know that's what he did. It just makes absolutely no sense from what we know about any of them and is only there to reconcile the pre-Freeza meteor story with Freeza being responsible for the destruction of planet Vegeta. That's the point I was trying to make - it's massively out of character for Freeza.

While there's plenty to argue about Minus being stupid, that's something that was plenty stupid in the OG manga.

Edited by Sigilbreaker26 on Sep 15th 2018 at 8:37:24 AM

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#32124: Sep 15th 2018 at 1:39:45 PM

Even if you could still track people by ki, the Solar Flare still makes sense from a pain and disorientation

Not really. Coz then the implication is "A Bright Light"note  causes more pain and discomfort and is more debilitating that rock-levelling ki blasts the characters shrug off constantly.

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 15th 2018 at 4:42:43 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#32125: Sep 15th 2018 at 1:40:09 PM

Well, if you believe that Frieza was also terrified of the possibility of a Super Saiyan, I suppose you could justify both him getting rid of most of them while making up a cover story to the ones who remained.

Although by that logic it's kind of hard to reconcile keeping Vegeta around. He had to have been the most talented Saiyan there was, having surpassed his father as a child. You'd think Frieza would be more worried about him becoming a Super Saiyan than any of them.

[up]I have no trouble believing that. It's not like it's ever been implied they can train their eyes to not be affected by bright light (or at least it doesn't come up with their usual training).

Edited by LSBK on Sep 15th 2018 at 3:42:17 AM


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