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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31701: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:25:13 PM

Anyway, it's while Goku is giving his speech about staying dead that he explicitly says Kaio could have chosen to come back with the wish they made but chose to stay dead to keep Goku company. He wasn't mad about it (in the manga) and doesn't complain about it until Super.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#31702: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:28:48 PM

ehh I can see it. it's been 11 years, and goku has been alive again for 4 of those and now his gracious offer of staying dead to keep goku company is meaningless

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#31703: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:31:09 PM

But...it's the afterlife. Wouldn't he be keeping Goku company anyway?

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31704: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:31:31 PM

...This is unrelated, but Oolong (in)famously wished for panties that one time, even though he didn't gather the balls, so wishes are granted based on the first person in the dragon's hearing who says "I wish".

In Porunga's case, the wish has to be in Namekian, but still.

Could you make Shenron and Porunga make wishes on each other?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31705: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:33:55 PM

[up][up] There are different areas to the afterlife, Goku went to Heaven which is specifically separate from where the Kaio live.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#31706: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:34:51 PM

Gohand's one kick on that Cell Jr. still remains awkward as heck.

I knew there was a reason I stopped rewatching the series.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31707: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:35:37 PM

Wait, I know the Otherworld Tournament arc itself was filler, but I thought it and Grand Kai and all that were still mentioned in the manga just offscreen.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#31708: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:40:27 PM

Yeah they all canonically exist, they just never showed up in the manga aside from west kai that one time.

Edited by Moth13 on Sep 7th 2018 at 10:40:56 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#31709: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:42:57 PM

Their territory’s are very small though since Super started there are only 28 planets with sentient life.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31710: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:43:42 PM

Grand Kaio is mentioned, but not the tournament.

Goku does say to his friends that he'll get to meet all the dead martial artists, and South Kaio mentions one of his own in the early Boo arc. Goku later mentions that he couldn't practice fusion with anyone in the afterlife because no-one was on par with him.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#31711: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:44:53 PM

The absolute shade on Pikkon there.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31712: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:55:22 PM

It's true...

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#31713: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:55:38 PM

Kaio is salty about not being revived in Super for two reasons. The first is that it feels different, and we actually know for a fact how it feels different. An ogre tells Goku his first time dead that he won't get hungry, and we know from the Buu Saga that being dead drains a lot less stamina from Super Saiyan 3 than being alive does. Obviously, Super Saiyan 3 is an extreme example, but I assume that also follows into being dead just giving you more stamina in general. Both of these sound like upsides, but I can see how Kaio'd miss the sensation of hunger.

The other reason is that the other Kaio make fun of him for being dead, which is a fairly understandable reason for not wanting to be dead, if it's actually seen as embarrassing for a god.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#31714: Sep 7th 2018 at 8:09:14 PM

On the stream they talked about a scene they cut from part 1, with Cell Joking that he made the Cell Jr. Yamcha is fighting much weaker then the rest just to mess with Vegeta into thinkkng Yamcha is just as strong as him. It was cut because there wasn’t a good place to put it.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#31715: Sep 7th 2018 at 8:10:42 PM

I love all of the jabs at Vegeta in this one.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31716: Sep 7th 2018 at 8:22:46 PM

On the stream they talked about a scene they cut from part 1, with Cell Joking that he made the Cell Jr. Yamcha is fighting much weaker then the rest just to mess with Vegeta into thinkkng Yamcha is just as strong as him. It was cut because there wasn’t a good place to put it.

Oh, it's a shame that got cut. And I agree that all the shade thrown towards Vegeta was great. Even Krillin stood up to him.

I totally forgot this was gonna be three parts. I thought it would stop at two.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#31717: Sep 7th 2018 at 8:30:48 PM

So is SS 2 going through his edgy teenage phase as a SS 2?

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#31718: Sep 7th 2018 at 8:34:15 PM

One of my names for SS 2 Teen Gohan/Super Gohan 2 is angsty Teen Gohan or Edgy Teen Gohan since esentially...That's what he is

So I say so

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#31719: Sep 7th 2018 at 8:38:27 PM

Except for the fact that "teen" Gohan is 11 in the anime and Abridged and 9 in the manga.

Really, it should be:

Saiyan-Namek: Kid Gohan

Android-Cell: Preteen Gohan

Buu: Teen Gohan

Super: Adult Gohan

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 7th 2018 at 8:40:45 AM

CryoJNik He who holds fandoms in contempt from At the edge of tomorrow Since: Nov, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
He who holds fandoms in contempt
#31720: Sep 7th 2018 at 8:41:26 PM

Eh,he's no less an edgelord than Vegeta can be...or any of the "cool" dbz characters. Only difference is that its a 180 from his normal personality.

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#31721: Sep 7th 2018 at 8:42:02 PM

Eh i'm used to Teen Gohan because of the games, plus he kinda looks 13-14 even though he's 11 so it's close enough to me.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#31722: Sep 7th 2018 at 8:59:34 PM

[up][up][up] No, he's 11 in the manga, too.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31723: Sep 7th 2018 at 9:02:07 PM

No he isn't. That would make him 18 in the Boo arc, which doesn't fit him starting high school.

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#31724: Sep 7th 2018 at 9:05:05 PM

This episode was so much better than the last one. The way they wrote Gohan was legit chilling.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31725: Sep 7th 2018 at 9:05:55 PM

He's 9 in all of them...though?

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