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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31676: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:32:13 PM

He's salty about it in Super, so.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#31677: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:32:18 PM

Most of the episode was alright, but that last minute or two was well beyond what I expected from them. Kudos!

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#31678: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:33:50 PM

Kinda makes me question why he choose to stay dead?

He says it is to guide Goku...but can't he do it when he is alive? He still remains in the otherworld either way so...

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#31679: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:34:12 PM

Hahahahahahhahahahhahaha!

No.

King Kai frequently tells off Goku for getting him killed. Especially in Super. In fact, there was a whole episode where Goku finally agrees to wish King Kai back to life, but suddenly everyone else has a wish to make too and the wish end sup getting wasted.

Edited by WillKeaton on Sep 7th 2018 at 7:33:43 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31680: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:37:25 PM

Yes, Kaio chose to stay dead to accompany Goku in Heaven.

Yes, he's salty about it in Super.

Setting aside that Super's characterizations are all over the place, that one's easy to explain because Goku was wished back to life and now Kaio staying dead serves no point.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#31681: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:42:11 PM

I think he's salty about it because, well, it's been years since Goku revived, how have none of my former students decided to revive me yet?

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#31682: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:44:27 PM

It doesn’t help that he’s at risk of being replaced with someone who’s ...... well alive.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#31683: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:45:55 PM

Why would he want to be alive? What's the difference?

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#31684: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:46:39 PM

It feels different apparently.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#31685: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:46:50 PM

Why would he actively go out of his way to stay dead?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31686: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:50:39 PM

Access to Heaven, apparently.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#31687: Sep 7th 2018 at 6:58:07 PM

The place where, even in the manga, South Kai was able to visit freely without being dead?

Codafett Knows-Many-Things Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Knows-Many-Things
#31688: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:00:07 PM

I can't watch part 2. Gohan's dialouge is tryhard as fuck, I had to tap out during his "I hate this" speech. I'm sure all the 13 year olds in the audience must be impressed though.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31689: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:02:59 PM

[up][up] Yeah, but apparently he'd need to be dead to stay there.

Post-revival Kaio has no need to stay dead. If he can still visit his planet, he has no reason to be alive either though.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#31690: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:03:10 PM

[up][up][up]I think we have to consider the possibility that King Kai is a dumbass.

Edited by Moth13 on Sep 7th 2018 at 10:02:40 AM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#31691: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:04:51 PM

[up][up][up] I mean, I thought it was alright, and I’m 10 years older than that, so...

Oh God! Natural light!
Berserker88 Since: Dec, 2010
#31692: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:05:55 PM

Been a while since I've seen the anime, but I remember in the manga at least, Kai was pretty ticked about being dead from the getgo, feeling that it was "degrading" to his status as a god. That Goku eventually got wished back and made the whole thing pointless probably didn't help.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31693: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:08:20 PM

I mean. Goku never got wished back.

Another even higher god died to give Goku his life force.

The Earth Dragon Balls can only resurrect someone once anyway, unless that limitation got changed by Super because of course it fucking did.

I guess King Kai could have called New Namek, but. There's probably a rule against it in the bureaucracy somewhere.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 7th 2018 at 10:10:44 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#31694: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:10:06 PM

Again he can apparently be replaced.

That’s legitimate grounds for worry.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#31695: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:11:42 PM

[up][up] It got changed here. Earth's Dragon Balls got upgraded to two wishes and multiple resurrections by Dende. Or am I remembering wrong and they were just upgraded two and couldn't go to three because then it'd be one rez at a time? Abridged also nixed immortality, though I forget if the reglar canon did anything like that.

Either way, as mentioned [down] the Namekian Dragon Balls lack that limitation.

[down][down] Yeah, I realized my mistake.

Edited by sgamer82 on Sep 7th 2018 at 8:13:22 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#31696: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:11:43 PM

Yeah, but they could have just gotten the Namekian Dragon Balls. Goku didn't come back because he figured it'd be better for everyone if he stayed gone.

Ironically, I've seen a lot of people who agree with that sentiment, and yet also like to complain about Goku actually saying it. Those people might just dislike Goku on principle.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31697: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:13:39 PM

There's a difference between "multi-rez" as in bringing back more than one person at once, and bringing the same person back multiple times.

The Namekian Dragon Balls can bring back one person at a time, but can bring back any given person as many times as you want.

The Earth Dragon Balls can bring back entire populations, as many people as you want without limit, but can't bring the same person back to life if that person has already been brought back by Shenron.

And. Could they have used the Namekian Dragon Balls?

They don't know where New Namek is. Goku used Instant Transmission to get Dende, and Goku being dead means he's not allowed in the mortal universe anymore.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 7th 2018 at 10:16:45 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31698: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:14:04 PM

[up][up][up] Are you sure it wasn't two wishes and mass res?

[nja]

[up] Well, Shenron was literally sitting there waiting for their second wish. If Goku hadn't interjected, they could use the wish to send someone to New Namek.

Edited by Saiga on Sep 8th 2018 at 12:18:38 AM

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31699: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:20:50 PM

I mean, Instant Transmission can physically take you from the mortal universe to Otherworld and back, but Goku being dead apparently bars him from crossing that veil freely.

I dunno if it's that there's an impenetrable barrier or if it's just against the rules or what.

But I feel like it's implied (for the manga, anyway, who knows with the anime) that the Gods and Yenma could just take Goku's body away at any time.

And still in the anime for Super, I guess Yenma is able to keep Golden Frieza in line in Hell somehow.

...Now, there is the question of why King Kai doesn't use his universal telepathy to contact Moori, and have Moori wish back. Himself, at least.

I dunno if King Kai would want to reward Goku for killing a God. That seems like it'd be frowned upon. King Kai still likes Goku so he won't press charges or take his body away or whatever, but. Still. Letting Goku go home like it never happened, seems off.

...Yeah taking him to fight in an Otherworld Tournament is a reward for Goku, but it also gives King Kai bragging rights with his fellow Kais, so.

[up] ...Huh.

Son of a bitch.

I never thought of Dragon Ball teleportation.

I know Piccolo did it to get to Namek, but.

Huh.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 7th 2018 at 10:23:26 AM

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#31700: Sep 7th 2018 at 7:24:26 PM

I dont think they have used the earth dragon balls since they were upgraded to resurrect someone who had already been resurrected with them. wasn't it the namek balls that mass res'd everyone at the end of buu? of course if namek's balls can go from 3 wishes but only one resurrection per wish to 3 wishes but you can resurrect most of a planet earths could have been upgraded to bring someone back more than once.


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