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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31576: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:18:32 AM

Oh, I'm sure that's the case. I wasn't trying to say they intentionally gave that ability to Shin in Super or anything.

I just don't think it's connected to the scene from Z.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31577: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:19:58 AM

[up][up] I agree. Which is why I want them to stay fused. They're both so meh that having just one meh character is just more efficient. Saves space.

...Hell. If you're going to unfuse them, just kill Kibito off then, for the love of Kami.

Have him win the Otherworld lottery and go retire at Heaven Vegas.

Put him somewhere else so I don't have to look at him anymore.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 6th 2018 at 9:24:29 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31578: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:29:54 AM

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He's barely shown up since they defused. He practically is somewhere else.

He's probably hanging out with Launch in the Home for Characters who are some how no longer important enough to appear despite fucking Puar and Oolong still showing up.

It's a very prestigious place.

...God I'm still pissed about the Potara having a time limit.

You and me both. Stupidest retcon ever. Especially since they already had a way to unfused them, via Namekian Dragonballs (just like with Shin and Kibito).

Edit: [down] Oh! Too slow. Finally, it's my turn to Murasaki someone! Yes! Yes!cool

Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 6th 2018 at 7:30:26 AM

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#31579: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:30:10 AM

Kibito went out to have some drinks with Launch

[nja]

Edited by fasoman1996 on Sep 6th 2018 at 10:32:46 AM

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31580: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:31:20 AM

[up][up] I mean, ever since they've added Boo to the cast they've had a real easy way to defuse the potara but I don't blame them for not addressing that elephant in the room

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31581: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:40:05 AM

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That too. Then again, Toriyama seems to prefer finding ways to keep Buu out of the fight instead. I guess because his options are don't let Buu fight or find an excuse as to why he doesn't just Candy Beam everyone into submission.

Then again, considering the nature of DBZ and it's antagonists, we'd probably just get a lot of worlds strongest candies if he did hit with it.

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#31582: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:41:33 AM

Then again, it would be hilarious if the most powerful entity in the universe was a piece of chocolate.

Don't eat it or your planet could be destroyed!

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31583: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:43:20 AM

[up][up] Well, his evil half kind of answered that question already.

Plus we have Goku dodging it later in the arc. Inverse Law of Utility and Lethality.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31584: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:46:39 AM

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Ah yes. Just blowing the attack back at him.

Fuck, he's gotta learn not to go so big.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#31585: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:49:58 AM

What was the reason for them wanting to get defused? Because I could actually understand not wanting Kibito's personality and sense of self to essentially die if it wasn't necessary, especially since they were basically tricked into it.

But does it make sense for a fusion to feel that way, particularly if the nature of it makes it permanent (for them, anyway)?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#31586: Sep 6th 2018 at 7:00:19 AM

In the manga, Kibitoshin gathered the Namekian balls thinking that was what Champa was after (after he and Old Kaioshin overheard Champa talking about the Super balls). After that was proven wrong, he decided to use them to split himself since he already went to the effort of gathering them.

In the anime Shin just shows up unfused and mentions that he used the balls off-screen to do it.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#31587: Sep 6th 2018 at 7:34:59 AM

He may have missed having an assistant, after all...

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#31588: Sep 6th 2018 at 7:47:41 AM

The explanation was "being fused felt weird and after a while we just couldn't bear it anymore".

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#31589: Sep 6th 2018 at 7:50:54 AM

It's just such a minor thing that I don't get getting mad over it. It makes sense that they'd want to defuse, so they defused. Does it needlessly complicate things? Not really. Does it make the cast too stuffed with characters? No, since Kibito doesn't really do much. Does it make the series worse that they did? No.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#31590: Sep 6th 2018 at 8:35:41 AM

Isn't the failure to use a character you've introduced or readded basically the textbook definition of being too stuffed with characters? Or at least one really obvious way it can happen.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#31591: Sep 6th 2018 at 8:38:54 AM

Well he existed to give Shin someone to bounce off of but that's not really necessary with Ancestral Kai and Beerus around.

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#31593: Sep 6th 2018 at 9:41:41 AM

He was there to gasp at the temerity of all of these ningen before it was cool and hip and a motivation to wipe out all life in the universe.

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#31594: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:01:40 PM

I thought we already established that, yes, they weren't sure if they were doing Buu before the hiatus, but now they are.

The opposite. They haven't committed one way or the other on whether or not they'll do Buu. They have, however, said that if they hadn't had this hiatus, the answer would be a definite and conclusive "Not doing Buu".

It's currently up in the air, whereas before the hiatus, they were ready to pack it in as soon as episode 60 was done.

Dragon Ball is actually incredibly consistent. While it's a well-known fact that Toriyama didn't plan for much of anything and was just making stuff up as he went, you wouldn't be able to tell when reading the manga due to how tight everything is.

*coughbuusagacough*

"Consistency" doesn't mean "well plotted out". It means that the events and characters don't contradict themselves.

Goku saving Mr. Satan and letting Gohan die for the sake of the Pure Buu segment having tension is stupid.

Frieza keeping his body in the afterlife is inconsistent.

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#31595: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:12:28 PM

You know, something occurred to me:

Cell describes Gohan as "durable like your father but soft like your mother"... Proof positive Cell has never met and indeed knows nothing about Chi Chi. Abridged or canon, there is nothing soft about Chi Chi.

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#31596: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:19:33 PM

When he was saying mother he was probably referring to chi chi being weak or gohan's human half

That's what I think at least

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31597: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:38:31 PM

I mean, that doesn't seem to be what Cell was talking about.

Being durable like Goku means that Cell can keep punching Gohan without dying.

Being soft seems to be referring to Gohan not fighting back, which.

I mean, Chichi isn't a professional fighter, and doesn't care about the fate of the world, because she doesn't seem to think very abstractly, but. It's not like she's a pacifist either. If Cell showed up and personally tried to wreck her house she'd jump at him to punch him.

She'd fail and die, like with Buu, but. I agree, there's nothing soft about Chichi.

Plenty stupid and shortsighted, though.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#31598: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:43:29 PM

Considering it's Cell, my mind went to her being "soft" for another reason...

Maybe that doesn't make sense, though.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#31599: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:45:30 PM

I just took it to mean that his skin is soft, so it feels better on his hands.

Yet he's still tough like his father, so he can last longer. Best of both worlds!

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#31600: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:51:12 PM

[up] yeah that

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