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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31226: Sep 1st 2018 at 4:24:25 PM

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Oh wow. I actually forgot about Escannor somehow. How did that happen?

...you know what? Don't answer that.

Anyway, how about we get back to Abridged talk. This thread has been massively derailed by the usual Power Level wank and main series discussion again.

What are we expecting for the next episode (in terms of TFS' rendition of it).

Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 1st 2018 at 5:26:43 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#31227: Sep 1st 2018 at 4:27:48 PM

Well...I was surprised by the foresight they gave Goku this time, even if he still made the same mistake as in the original.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31228: Sep 1st 2018 at 4:33:08 PM

Well, Goku's plan is also flawed in that he basically knew he could have ended the conflict if he'd gone first and deliberately chose not to so that Gohan could fight first, and because he knew Vegeta would botch things.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31229: Sep 1st 2018 at 4:36:11 PM

The challenge excites him...

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#31230: Sep 1st 2018 at 4:37:11 PM

I expect some Cell Jr. murdering, Cell getting his long deserved beatdown and maybe Trunks roasting him about Cell going full muscle and the irony of it.

Also, Goku dying.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#31231: Sep 1st 2018 at 4:42:07 PM

I'm curious how they'll handle the Z-Fighters monologues during the final beam-war.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31232: Sep 1st 2018 at 4:43:38 PM

Those were a thing apparently...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#31233: Sep 1st 2018 at 4:48:31 PM

One of the additions of the anime to the Kamehameha beam-war.

Very touching additions too.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31234: Sep 1st 2018 at 4:53:11 PM

Mostly, it was just everyone but Vegeta trying to distract Cell long enough to let Gohan push past him.

They failed, and then the canon part where Vegeta did distract him long enough happened.

Oh right. Trunks didn't help because he'd been Ki blast Yamcha'ed earlier.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#31235: Sep 1st 2018 at 5:32:57 PM

How did Cell not know about Gohan's anger boosts? In canon, he has the cells of Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Freeza, and King Cold, and all of them aside from King Cold have seen Gohan rage out, Vegeta and Freeza even experiencing it directly. Abridged Cell is made of even more people, everyone in the main cast aside from Yamcha. Logically, that would also include Gohan. Cell knows how to use everyone's moves from genetic memory, why wouldn't he know about Gohan's rage boosts?

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 1st 2018 at 5:32:36 AM

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#31236: Sep 1st 2018 at 5:48:06 PM

I'm expecting that part 2 will end with Cell (apparently) murdering Trunks after blowing up, and part 3 will end with Trunks (actually) murdering Cell after returning to the future.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#31237: Sep 1st 2018 at 5:50:27 PM

Why did you say apparently? Cell actually did kill Trunks they just wished him back.

thok That's Dr. Title, thank you! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#31238: Sep 1st 2018 at 5:57:34 PM

I was under the impression Trunks was only very badly injured by Cell, but was barely alive.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#31239: Sep 1st 2018 at 5:58:43 PM

No he was very much dead.

He was visibly brought back to life by Shenron after the battle.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#31240: Sep 1st 2018 at 6:00:14 PM

with Trunks (actually) murdering Cell

You remember this saga way differently than I did.

Ooooh, you mean Future Cell

Edited by Ghilz on Sep 1st 2018 at 9:02:17 AM

thok That's Dr. Title, thank you! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#31241: Sep 1st 2018 at 6:06:53 PM

[up] Yeah, I'd be surprised if they didn't include Trunks epilogue in the future, just to give the character some closure.

(Well, closure until Super, but that's probably never being abridged.)

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#31242: Sep 1st 2018 at 6:07:42 PM

Makes you wonder what would have happened with Future 17 and 18 if they actually killed Trunks and remained around until Cell showed up

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#31243: Sep 1st 2018 at 6:16:10 PM

How did Cell not know about Gohan's anger boosts?
Why would he know? He has their DNA, not their memories, and the closest he's come to being angry enough to trigger such a boost was either Tenshinhan's Kikoho-throwdown and when he's blowing up islands.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#31244: Sep 1st 2018 at 6:19:16 PM

I'm curious how they'll handle the Z-Fighters monologues during the final beam-war.

They'll probably do the typical gag. First trim on it so not everybody says something.

Then cut to Vegeta thinking something serious about his failures or respect or something. Piccolo thinking something serious about how Gohan has grown or something. Then either Krillin thinking something semi-serious about Gohan and/or 18 that segues into something funny, or cut to Yamcha thinking something completely stupid.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 1st 2018 at 6:22:12 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31245: Sep 1st 2018 at 6:22:28 PM

I would assume that Yamcha would get cut off before he gets a chance just as one final Butt-Monkey moment, while Krillin does get a chance to say something, but it is stupid.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#31246: Sep 1st 2018 at 6:29:02 PM

Cell says that he knows all their techniques because he has their cells in them. Why would he have genetic memory of some stuff but not others? Also, Abridged Cell explicitly has memories from his, uh, doners because he knew hoe Bulma and Goku met. Even ignoring all that, Gero had Goku under observation during the fight with Raditz, where Gohan first manifested his anger powers.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#31247: Sep 1st 2018 at 6:30:13 PM

Perfect Cell knows hoe?

He's got the face and voice, I'd believe it.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#31248: Sep 1st 2018 at 6:39:02 PM

[up][up] Ah, I forgot about that, he would have to have their memories to retell the series. Only thing I can think of then is he underestimated just how powerful Gohan got with them. Especially since, as Gohan himself admitted, he'd never actually beaten anyone before.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#31249: Sep 1st 2018 at 7:56:45 PM

I think they said Trunks killing the Androids and Cell of his timeline would be a separate little special video rather than a proper part of Episode 60. But I do suspect that Cell's return and murder of Trunks will be the divider between parts 2 and 3.

Speaking of, when he does come back, I hope he actually refers to himself as Super Perfect Cell, prompting a callback to the "You're either perfect or you're not me" exchange. And maybe a "You're not dealing with the average level of perfection anymore" bit.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#31250: Sep 1st 2018 at 8:16:46 PM

On Trunks dying, I think one of the dubs had Yamcha say "He's just barely hanging on" or something when what he really said was "He's dead."

Back when dubs couldn't be super explicit about death.


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