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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#30751: Jul 1st 2018 at 3:58:14 PM

[up][up] Then I'm sorry for my lack of sense, use of words as well as attributing what was my own fault and responsibilities to others through what would has been clarified as a poor way to apologize.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30752: Jul 1st 2018 at 4:55:14 PM

Most of these characters we simply haven't seen enough of them to judge their parenting.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30753: Jul 1st 2018 at 4:59:40 PM

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This is true. We don't see how too many of them parent.

Even with Goku, we only really see him when he's fighting, or training to fight, and don't get much of his downtime.

There's 4 or 5 years of Gohan's life where Goku was there being a dad, and he seemed to do pretty well (well, those are those first few years, but still).

Though I think the judgements on Vegeta do in fact stand, both good and bad.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30754: Jul 1st 2018 at 5:02:51 PM

There’s also the time between Z & End of Z, Goku was there.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#30755: Jul 1st 2018 at 5:32:42 PM

Even with Goku, we only really see him when he's fighting, or training to fight, and don't get much of his downtime.

That's only if you ignore the filler episodes. (and why would you? Slice of Life Dragonball is best Dragonball)

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30756: Jul 1st 2018 at 7:29:51 PM

Well of course I'm speaking of pure manga.

Also watching dub 69. Needless to say, the person I'm watching it with isn't impressed.

...that makes it more fun.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30757: Jul 1st 2018 at 7:43:42 PM

What's to dub over in a 69? Shouldn't be that much room for talking

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30758: Jul 1st 2018 at 7:48:53 PM

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Edit: Oh right. This is the abridged thread. I was talking about Dragonball Super Dub episode 69: The Arale episode. I forgot what thread I was in.

...Keeping the youtube link. You know why Saiga. You know why.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 1st 2018 at 8:51:37 AM

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#30759: Jul 1st 2018 at 7:48:55 PM
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#30760: Jul 1st 2018 at 8:42:33 PM

That's only if you ignore the filler episodes. (and why would you? Slice of Life Dragonball is best Dragonball)

Because Toei has a very poor grasp of Toriyama's world, setting, characters, and mechanics, and frequently misrepresents everything.

The slice of life episodes are basically fanfiction.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#30761: Jul 1st 2018 at 8:52:05 PM

Really bad fanfiction at that.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#30762: Jul 1st 2018 at 8:56:07 PM

I mean, Super itself was a bit like bad fanfiction. (half)Joking aside though, I never really had a problem with the slice of life because you're not supposed to take it seriously anyway.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30763: Jul 1st 2018 at 9:12:48 PM

Plus it is nice to see moments in the characters life beyond when they are fighting and (often) dying.

I mean, you yourself once made a long speech about how these guys don't seem to care about each other unless they are getting together for a huge battle (considering how often some of them go not seeing each other for year), and how they don't give a fuck about each other unless they are punching someone in the face or punching each other in the face Tobias.

(I'm near positive you did say something along those lines in either this thread, or the main thread. If I'm wrong, feel free to call me out on it)

The Slice of Life eps show us there's more to them than that. It'd be nice if we got some of that out of Toriyama. Hell, he was the one who came up with Baseball Yamcha if I recall.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jul 1st 2018 at 10:13:25 AM

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#30764: Jul 1st 2018 at 10:12:08 PM

Because Toei has a very poor grasp of Toriyama's world, setting, characters, and mechanics, and frequently misrepresents everything.

The slice of life episodes are basically fanfiction.

Yeah I couldn't disagree more. There are tons of great episodes that are Toei original. Sure there's some duds in there too but to dismiss all the slice of life because of a few continuity errors seems excessive.

Anyway, even if you personally don't count them, they did happen and will have contributed towards people's views of parenting in the series.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30765: Jul 1st 2018 at 10:13:57 PM

Yeah that just makes their views less accurate, like basing it off dubtext would.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#30766: Jul 1st 2018 at 10:15:48 PM

No it doesn't. You can't assert your own version of canon atop someone else's.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#30768: Jul 1st 2018 at 10:18:49 PM

I mean, you can't tell someone else what to like (well, you shouldn't), but what does or doesn't fit into a story is usually an objective, observable thing.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30769: Jul 1st 2018 at 10:18:53 PM

I'm not. I should clarify that it makes their views less accurate to the original characters, same diff.

What the anime does only applies to the anime. That's really not a canon debate - I don't care about canon.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#30770: Jul 9th 2018 at 3:45:17 PM

I wish I recorded it, since I can't find it anymore, but at a convention panel I attended last year, Schemmel and Sabat agreed that Vegeta's the better father and lover, Goku isn't a particularly good dad, and Piccolo would be the best.

...wait, Schmmel and Sabat agreed that Vegeta was the better lover, but that Piccolo would still be better?

I mean I feel like Goku would get bored and go out to train after love-making, but that'd still be better than Vegeta just up and leaving thirty seconds later and not saying a word.

And both of those would be better than Piccolo who outright lacks genitalia.

Goku was a bad dad

Canon Goku might have been a bad dad, but Filler Goku was the absolute worst.

Really Goku?

Are we going to ignore the fact that goku almost couldnt outrun a baby roller shit

Tree: "so.. you wanna fight me?"

Gohan: "fight you? No, I wanna kill you"

piccolo wouldn't let it go that far..

Stroller: "Gohan.... release your power. It is not a sin to fight for the right cause. There are those that words alone cannot reach, Tree is one of those people. Free your spirit as your anger rises. I know how you feel but you can't hold back any longer.

Tree: "Give your mouth a rest, you factory recall"

Gohan: "HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30771: Jul 9th 2018 at 3:49:00 PM

The English V As are idiots

More news at 11

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30772: Jul 9th 2018 at 3:57:19 PM

Honestly the idea that Vegeta is a good lover is nonsensical cause I’m pretty sure he has never been in a decent relationship in his life till he knocked up Bulma.

Hell any sexual encounters he’s been in before was most likely just him forcing himself onto the woman of the plants he conquered.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#30773: Jul 9th 2018 at 3:58:04 PM

I mean, that's clearly about Piccolo being a better father than either of them. Which is still dumb, but makes more sense as a comparison.

I wouldn't image that either Goku or Vegeta would be good sexual partners.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 9th 2018 at 5:57:56 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30774: Jul 9th 2018 at 4:01:44 PM

Lover was clearly not being used in the sexual partner sense, but the romantic partner sense.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#30775: Jul 9th 2018 at 4:04:52 PM

Really? Well, either way I still don't see them being good at it. We've seen how they both are, equally bad in different ways.


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