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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30476: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:40:05 PM

Enough with that...

If 3 things were to ever happen, that doesn't work...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30477: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:41:44 PM

As I've said before, that interpretation of yours really seems to miss the mark of what the scene was aiming for. Goku doesn't bring up senzu, he says that he's never put his mouth up to Chi-Chi's. That pretty much kills any interpretation that he knows what kissing is or that Chi-Chi and Goku have done it without him initiating.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#30478: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:43:14 PM

He's saying it in response to Trunks transferring a Senzu mouth-to-mouth. Goku's surprise is that he never thought of delivering a Senzu that way.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30479: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:45:14 PM

...

I really don't think he is PMC.

I wish he was, but I don't think that's what this is.

Because that would make sense.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30480: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:46:50 PM

[up][up] That does not line up with what he says and the scene lacks the punchline to clarify that.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#30481: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:49:08 PM

Death of the Author, fuck Funimation, fuck Toyotarou, and fuck Toriyama. My interpretation is the best one, and it can plausibly be read that way so I'm right. Having the scene be a comedic misunderstanding makes it funny and consistent while having Goku just not know what kissing is is dumb and bad.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#30482: Apr 25th 2018 at 5:52:08 PM

Choosing to interpret it that way is fine. I think people just don't want you saying it's the intended joke.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#30483: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:07:48 PM

Several pages of chat in the last couple hours...

I'm going to assume an unnecessarily heated "discussion" is going on again.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#30484: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:08:29 PM

Kinda? Basically just that Super was a terrible idea and should never have happened.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30485: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:09:13 PM

Terrible idea, worse execution

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30486: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:21:54 PM

Kinda makes you think that Dragonball just isn't a series for sequels...

...at least not with the series main characters. They really need to just commit to using that younger generation to be honest. The introduction of new universes was nice, but most of the characters are either so strong that it's hard to imagine them getting more powerful, or so far behind that there's nowhere for them to go even if they try.

But a new group would wipe that problem (even if they'd need to be mostly part Saiyan to get anywhere).

But neither Toriyama nor Toei seem interested in that. Hell, Toriyama deliberately went back on making Gohan the hero after spending so long building him up.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30487: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:29:29 PM

Yeah, after the back-and-forth with Gohan there is no chance of the series being able to move on with a new cast. I wouldn't want them trying it with an even less established character.

At the same time, I don't think a new cast actually would fix things, even if the idea was comitted to. Sure, it lets you lower the power scale, but that doesn't work if the old characters are still around in some capacity. And even if they aren't, you still have the issue of the series lacking the stakes viewers are used to.

It still becomes a case of 'why bother?' when there isn't much left in the universe that really needs expanding on, and you're not doing it with the characters that people like.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30488: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:32:14 PM

Ultimate Universe?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#30489: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:34:08 PM

Super's great imho.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30490: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:39:21 PM

[up][up] Toriyama wouldn't be interested. He's said that he doesn't dwell on ideas like what he could have done differently, in a very 'it is what it is' way. I don't think such a project would spark his creativity.

The Ultimate Universe existed to attract new readers who were put off the main comics due to continuity lock-out, archive panic and wanting a more modern style.

Thise aren't really problems that DB faces.

edited 25th Apr '18 6:42:31 PM by Saiga

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30491: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:45:16 PM

I just like the idea of doing things again but with all the history in mind & changing it up while still keeping it spiritually intact.

But hey it doesn't work for everything after all.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30492: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:48:04 PM

If only Karrot actually stayed in a teacher role...

This whole multiverse concept could be explored with characters like Oob and Gotendo.

And adventures.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30493: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:48:18 PM

I feel like that's a niche interest.

Also, usually when companies do that they mostly use it as an opportunity to pimp new products rather than keep the spirit intact.

If the rebooted DB they'd add some new marketable characters, tone down characters they don't want to use (bye-bye Boo, hello even more Freeza) and it'd probably be a shitshow.

edited 25th Apr '18 6:48:47 PM by Saiga

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30494: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:51:30 PM

Lord knows we wouldn't want DB obeying modern trends.

Vegeta's fight with Toppo already feels Fairy Tail enough as it is.

[up] Wouldn't Cell be the one removed?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#30495: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:53:56 PM

Well, that was referencing Boo as an ally and the incredibly strong aversion to use him in anything recent.

edited 25th Apr '18 6:54:13 PM by Saiga

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#30496: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:54:12 PM

It's bye bye Boo because they have no interest in using him post villainy.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#30497: Apr 25th 2018 at 6:54:49 PM

Ah that's what you mean, right.

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#30498: Apr 25th 2018 at 7:54:57 PM

I mean, I get that Toriyama has no interest in romance (which he keeps putting into his stories anyway), but c'mon man! Have him kiss his damn wife! You had them have sex, but he's still totally ignorant of kissing. I don't care if it is technically possible, it's still utterly ridiculous!

He could be aromantic but not asexual. That allows for Goku to be disinterested in romantic gestures like kissing but to still enjoy banging his wife.

edited 25th Apr '18 7:55:41 PM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#30499: Apr 25th 2018 at 8:32:49 PM

[up]

I guess.

If the rebooted DB they'd add some new marketable characters, tone down characters they don't want to use (bye-bye Boo, hello even more Freeza) and it'd probably be a shitshow Fairy Tail.

...I didn't actually make the post better. I just felt like taking a shot at Fairy Tail. I feel pretty good now.[lol]

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Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
leader of Inherit
#30500: Apr 25th 2018 at 9:26:53 PM

Ah yes the manga where the one of the protagonist will essentially screw justice for their own favor or morality.

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