"More power, more speed," isn't in dispute. "A battle power of 100 is exactly twice as speedy as a battle power of 50" is.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Hah, that's interesting. I wonder what else you could work out by assuming exact scaling of power level, like weight lifting and stuff
"Fastest in the Universe" according to him. In his defense, he probably didn't know about Frieza's transformations.
One of two options is possible:
- Burter is legitimately faster than both Captain Ginyu and the lowest form of Frieza, but makes up for it with significantly lower strength, durability, energy output, etc. resulting in a lower battle power. Basically, the exact opposite of Super Saiyan Grade III.
- Burter is talking out of his ass.
edited 17th Mar '18 10:05:29 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I'm not sure I'd agree to Darkseid being as powerful as Beerus, but then again, I haven't read the comics; I only know him from the cartoons.
I never got the impression that if Darkseid and Superman Punch Parried five times, the force generated by their blows would obliterate the entire universe.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.No. That is a popular misconception because it's what happened when Frieza destroyed Namek's core. However, this occurred because Frieza held back too much energy, either to avoid being caught in the blast or because he had second thoughts about ragequitting.
Had he not done that, the result would have been an Earth-Shattering Kaboom. This is generally agreed by all parties involved: Goku, Frieza, and Kaio-sama.
However, people in Versus discussions eager to downplay how powerful Dragon Ball characters are quick to leap to it and go, "See? Frieza hit the planet with ALL OF HIS POWER and only caused a slow collapse," so that bit of misinformation gets passed around.
edited 17th Mar '18 11:56:33 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.That's what Frieza did. Past that it's never implied anyone is specifically targeting the core.
Edit: When Vegeta says he's going to destroy the Earth, it's never implied he's specifically going to destroy the core either. Though there's a bit of debate over whether he could have at that point or not.
edited 17th Mar '18 11:58:53 AM by LSBK
Specifically, the debate around whether Vegeta could destroy the Earth is the same as the one around whether Super Perfect Cell could destroy the Solar System. The character says the attack would do it and nobody disputes it, even though everyone present is capable of sensing the amount of power he's putting into the attack and would consequentially know if he's bluffing.
However, we never actually see it happen, and so for some people, the undisputed claim is insufficient as evidence. Because of this and the misconception surrounding Frieza's Namek shot, there are ultimately three camps on Dragon Ball powers:
- Vegeta is a planet buster, Cell is a solar system buster.
- Frieza is a planet buster, Cell is not a solar system buster.
- Pure Buu is the first true planet buster.
- Burter is legitimately faster than both Captain Ginyu and the lowest form of Frieza, but makes up for it with significantly lower strength, durability, energy output, etc. resulting in a lower battle power. Basically, the exact opposite of Super Saiyan Grade III.
- Burter is talking out of his ass.
But neither of them back up his claim. Since Guldo is faster than Burter (And Frieza). Since any movement while time is stopped has infinite speed.
So even if 1 is true, Burter can't be faster than Guldo as Guldo is the fastest in the universe (At least till Goku who can outspeed time-skips)
edited 17th Mar '18 12:17:44 PM by Ghilz

Ah, but that's one of the only exceptions in the series to the rule of "more power, more speed".
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"