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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#29826: Feb 5th 2018 at 7:57:17 PM

Gero also name-drops Frappe when he runs down the list of scientists who knew the location of his lab.

The "all mad scientists know where each others' labs are" joke missed me. Is that actually a trope, or was it just a funny line?

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#29827: Feb 5th 2018 at 9:08:59 PM

It's an exaggeration of an actual line from source material. Bulma not only immediately identifies Dr. Gero on sight after arriving, but when they subsequently ask if she knows where his lab is, she just does. For some f*cking reason. Paraphrasing, they're just like,

  • Bulma: Hey, that was Dr. Gero. Weird. I didn't know he worked for the Red Ribbon Army!
  • Vegeta: You know him?! Great! Where's his lab, woman?
  • Bulma: It's in the mountains north of the city.

edited 5th Feb '18 9:10:11 PM by TobiasDrake

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#29828: Feb 5th 2018 at 9:47:36 PM

(Dub Quote): I. Know. What. I saw Vegeta!! There was a picture of that old guy in one of my dad's old science magazines and underneath it in big bold letters it said (emphasized) DR. GERO!

edited 5th Feb '18 9:50:30 PM by randomness4

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#29829: Feb 5th 2018 at 9:55:21 PM

[up][up]Krillin: "Jesus Future Bulma, what the s-t?"

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
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#29830: Feb 6th 2018 at 7:35:57 AM

In fairness to Future Bulma, Present Bulma admits that she didn't know Dr. Gero was the guy building the androids or even that he worked for Red Ribbon at all. Assuming that Androids 19 and 20 either didn't exist in the Future Timeline or were as outclassed as they were in this one, it's unlikely that Future Bulma would have ever found out.

17 killed Gero right after awakening. Without the advance warning of the future to tell them this is happening, Bulma never would have been near South City to see Android 20 even if he did exist. As that's the only thing that tips her off to Dr. Gero's identity, Future Bulma just straight-up wouldn't know about it.

edited 6th Feb '18 7:36:12 AM by TobiasDrake

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#29831: Feb 6th 2018 at 9:10:54 AM

Technically, 17 and 18 were 19 and 20 in the future timeline.

Also, didn't Trunks know Gero was responsible for them? Did he not talk to Bulma about them?

but HOW?
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#29832: Feb 6th 2018 at 9:56:38 AM

Yeah, Trunks told Goku that Gero built the Androids, AND said that the androids killed him.

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#29833: Feb 7th 2018 at 6:34:01 PM

How much time had passed in Trunks' timeline between him killing Cell and the arrival of Goku Black?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#29834: Feb 7th 2018 at 6:34:50 PM

Not sure. It's not made clear, but it has to have been at least a few years.

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#29835: Feb 7th 2018 at 6:37:08 PM

10 years ish, because the present and future timelines are now linked like travelling between universes

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#29836: Feb 7th 2018 at 6:37:50 PM

I don't recall that ever being mentioned.

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#29837: Feb 7th 2018 at 6:42:58 PM

They are linked, but Goku Black didn't necessarily come to Earth recently. According to the manga, he was around to watch Trunks vs Dabura, and it's also not clear when exactly that happened. There's about 10 years between Trunks killing Cell and the Future Trunks arc, but we don't know how long Goku Black's been hanging around.

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#29838: Feb 7th 2018 at 6:43:33 PM

The idea is that Trunks traveling should not split timelines as he's going no further back in time.

This isn't actually consistent with Black's timeline but it's what they were going for. And without that, there's no reason for him to visit that particular time.

The manga definitely establishes that bit

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#29839: Feb 8th 2018 at 12:14:12 PM

Question : is there any significance to the "419" number that is attached to the planet entirely populated by DBZ fans, miraculously re-populated after (I'm guessing) the release of Battle of the Gods?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#29840: Feb 8th 2018 at 12:16:48 PM

I think it was purely a joke over how few craps Freeza gives toward naming planets.

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#29841: Feb 8th 2018 at 12:32:08 PM

[up] So I was randomly musing. I think it's more that DBZA Frieza just has a much better head for numbers than names. Like possibly an eidetic memory, but only for numbers.

He can personally recall the number of every single disposable minion, he remembers the number of every Frieza planet, and can keep an exhaustive running tally of heroic speeches which is frankly more impressive at this point than blowing up a planet.

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#29842: Feb 8th 2018 at 12:50:09 PM

The miraculously re-populated planet is actually the planet of future-seers that Bardock apparently failed to completely wipe out. The stuff they're shouting is all predictions of future events in the story.

I have a message from another time...
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#29843: Feb 8th 2018 at 3:59:53 PM

It's also a number used in the name of a brand of a cleaning product, which had memorable commercials during the years TFS were kids. I can't think of many other numbers in the hundreds/thousands that had memorable cultural significance during their youth (assuming they're around my age).

I just realized the possibility that there will be (Good) Majin Android 21 cosplayers this upcoming convention season.
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edited 8th Feb '18 4:14:32 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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#29844: Feb 8th 2018 at 4:29:34 PM

Probably.

I'll be honest, I don't like 21 very much. Admittedly, I've only gotten through the Super Warrior Arc and three chapters into the Enemy Warrior Arc, but she has not grown on me.

The way 90% of her dialogue consists of orgasming at the thought of turning people into sugary treats is very reminiscent of Majin Buu's introduction, but he didn't stay at the Fat Buu stage. It was his weakest and most innocent form. He progressed to Super Buu the stoic Terminator, then absorbed protagonists to become the intelligent and sadistic Buutenks/colo/han, and then closed out with the raw, uncontrollable fury of Pure Buu.

I've been waiting for her to reveal a more menacing side and given that it never happened all the way up to her actual death in the Super Warrior Arc, I've kinda given up hope that it's going to happen at all. I'd like to say that the juxtaposition of her upbeat and peppy attitude towards turning people into treats and devouring them is at least unnerving but, like, I've already seen Fat Buu.

That's basically all she is. The first form of Majin Buu with none of the stuff that follows, very little of the tension, and boobs. She feels more like one of the cheap, blatant rip-off movie villains than an actual Dragon Ball adversary.

edited 8th Feb '18 4:30:42 PM by TobiasDrake

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#29845: Feb 8th 2018 at 4:30:43 PM

She's also very easy from the looks to it.

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#29846: Feb 8th 2018 at 4:31:33 PM

The third arc is where she really gets to shine, imo.

This song needs more love.
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#29847: Feb 8th 2018 at 4:32:51 PM

I'm not going to spoil anything, and am now dropping the subject.

edited 8th Feb '18 5:30:35 PM by wanderlustwarrior

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#29848: Feb 8th 2018 at 4:51:10 PM

Is this the "419" commercial you were talking about? Because that's what popped up when I searched youtube for "419 commercial." And it IS a cleaning product.

edited 8th Feb '18 4:55:17 PM by WillKeaton

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#29849: Feb 8th 2018 at 5:30:17 PM

[up]Huh. The fact that I misremembered the actual name of the cleaning product, which is "409", apparently makes a big difference.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#29850: Feb 8th 2018 at 8:46:39 PM

We have a Dragonball thread and a thread for the Dragonball Fighter Z game.

I feel like we shouldn't be discussing spoilers from the latter at all. :/

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