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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#29476: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:39:40 PM

Of note: by the time How Much More Can He Take? comes into play, Vegeta's usually not capable of defending himself anymore.

There are three ways to interpret 0 HP:

  • 0 HP is the moment at which a character dies.
  • 0 HP is the moment at which a character is knocked out.
  • 0 HP is the moment at which a character is badly enough beaten that he's no longer capable of putting up a reasonable fight.

The first and second have the problem of Critical Existence Failure, but under the third interpretation, those prolonged feats of characters wailing on a defenseless Vegeta while he continues to sit there and take truly ludicrous amounts of punishment would take place after Vegeta's HP hit 0.

Like, Frieza gripping Vegeta's neck with his tail and punching him in the kidneys? Vegeta's totally at 0 HP during that.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#29477: Jan 18th 2018 at 2:57:56 PM

But then two punches from Freeza would have given him the failed death saves to die on the spot, no speech to Goku or anything

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#29478: Jan 18th 2018 at 3:01:19 PM

If your DM doesn't let you give a long-winded overblown death speech before you kick it are they really a DM?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#29479: Jan 18th 2018 at 3:11:43 PM

They didn't the only time I died

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#29480: Jan 19th 2018 at 6:32:04 PM

Jeice speaks with an Australian accent. Does he have an accent in the original Japanese, like an Osakin, accent or something? Or did his original voice actor decide to give him an accent because he thought it was funny, and it just got grandfathered in?

When the guys make the wish to bring back all the people Cell killed, shouldn't that have revived King Kai as well?

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#29481: Jan 19th 2018 at 6:51:35 PM

According to the wiki, he didn't have an accent in Japanese, started out with a Scottish accent in the Ocean dub, then switched over to Space Australia in Funi's dub for unknown reasons.

Also, King Kai lives in the afterlife anyway, maybe he didn't care either way.

The legend has returned.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#29482: Jan 19th 2018 at 6:56:20 PM

Oh he cares, he very much cares.

He's pissed that the Cell wish didn't revive him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#29483: Jan 19th 2018 at 7:02:35 PM

I think it was always Australian. Didn't sound Scottish to me, even when he was voiced by Scott Scott McNeil.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#29484: Jan 19th 2018 at 7:26:48 PM

MIGHTY IS HE.

Seriously though, dude voiced Dinobot, Rattrap, Waspinator, Silverbolt and the better Hoenheim of Light.

edited 19th Jan '18 7:36:12 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#29485: Jan 19th 2018 at 7:39:06 PM

Are we in some bizarro alternate universe where Brotherhood doesn't run circles around the first anime?

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#29486: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:14:47 PM

Brotherhood does have a rough start, though, due to not wanting to rehash the stuff the original anime was faithful to.

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#29487: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:15:14 PM

Kaio-sama refused the resurrection because he wanted to stay with Goku on his journey through the afterlife and continue to train him.

He only pretended to care in order to distract Goku from inquiring about Beerus.

edited 19th Jan '18 8:15:57 PM by TobiasDrake

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#29488: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:17:52 PM

The manga is better than both.

This song needs more love.
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#29489: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:21:06 PM

Wait, I was distracted by the topic. Is someone badmouthing Fullmetal Mangahood?

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Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#29490: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:21:48 PM

[up][up]

Eh? Speak up, sonny.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#29491: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:25:59 PM

The manga is better than both.

This song needs more love.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#29492: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:26:32 PM

Could ya speak up? I'm a tad deaf in my right ear.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#29493: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:28:45 PM

THE MANGA IS BETTER THAN BOTH!

This song needs more love.
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#29494: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:30:06 PM

Jesus, we heard you. Don't need to shout.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#29495: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:30:42 PM

So what your saying is the second anime is better than both?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#29496: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:31:08 PM

I don't think I caught that, sonny. Once more with feeling?

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#29497: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:34:03 PM

THE MANGA IS BETTER THAN BOTH!

Aww, the text markup doesn't work.

edited 19th Jan '18 8:34:29 PM by LordVatek

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#29498: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:34:25 PM

So the first anime is better than both?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#29500: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:52:36 PM

Why start up this pointless debate?


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