We've never seen an immortality wish granted before, aside from Movie and Filler Exclusive Garlic Jr. Apparently, the way it works is that it doesn't make you invulnerable; instead, it regenerates you from any injury and gives you, like, infinite ki reserves and stamina. So even if you can't win a fight with a stronger adversary, they still can't actually kill you and you can wear them down.
What's odd is that Zamasu opted to do this with the Super Dragon Balls when it seems like the regular ones would work just fine.
The regular Dragon Balls can't grant immortality. Vegeta and Frieza thought they could, but never got a chance to make those wishes and never found out otherwise. As the evil half of God, Piccolo knew that immortality wasn't on the table, which is why he only wished for his youth to be restored. Vegeta later learned this from Piccolo after Namek, resulting in him never trying to make that wish again.
edited 11th Jan '18 7:26:53 AM by TobiasDrake
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Presumably, the Super Dragon Balls could overturn a wish for immortality made on the regular Dragon Balls but not vice-versa, so he went with the highest-authority set of balls and then destroyed them so his immortality can't even be un-wished.
edited 11th Jan '18 12:14:36 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!I'm actually not sure. What's really weird about them is that they scatter across the universes, but only universes 6 and 7. The other 10 universes don't get to have Super Dragon Balls.
That's an awkward and kinda arbitrary distinction. Like, if you're going to make them scatter across universes, they should scatter across all the universes. It's not like this was used to give the characters a reason to explode universe 6 either; the Balls have been gathered twice and both times, it was all done offscreen.
It, like everything else about the Super Dragon Balls, is completely arbitrary and there's no real indication of why they even exist as a plot device. I think Toriyama just really liked the image of giant Dragon Balls floating in orbit around the tournament stage.
They're Dragon Balls except bigger, harder to find, and you only get one wish.
edited 11th Jan '18 1:59:08 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I mean, Super is pretty arbitrary but it's not like there's no story behind the Super Dragon Balls: The Dragon God Zamala (or something) made the Super Dragon Balls so that anyone who gathers them can summon him to request a wish for his infinite power or something. He also patented the star pattern.
The Namkians (in both Universe 6 and Universe 7) based their Dragon Balls of it and/or chipped away fragments of the originals. Now as for why Zamala wants to grant people's wishes....eh.
Now that I have a name, I checked the wiki.
He's right, they're separate creatures.
So... you guys were serious about "patenting". Huh.
Also, since he's an Unseen Character, it's possible that he's an Albino ancient Namekian, and that's why they're the only species able to make them, as well as why they're limited to those two universes.
edited 11th Jan '18 2:12:04 PM by wanderlustwarrior
They have an origin in-universe but they don't really do anything special and they actually grant fewer wishes than the regular Dragon Balls. These are the wishes that have been made on them:
- Restore the planet Earth in Universe 6.
- Allow Zamasu to steal Goku's body, Ginyu-style.
- Make Future Zamasu immortal.
I guess the idea is that they aren't limited by the power of their creator. The first one was able to repopulate Universe 6's Earth without having to abide the one-year time limit for mass revivals, after all.
The second one seems impressive because the regular Dragon Balls can't grant wishes affecting anyone more powerful than God, but it's still pretty underwhelming when the Super Dragon Balls were assembled just to reproduce a skill that Captain Ginyu has.
And the third one, so far as we know, is a bog-standard Dragon Ball wish that either Shenron or Porunga could have granted at any time.
And again: despite how seemingly awesome the idea of having to traverse only two of the twelve universes to find the Super Dragon Balls might be, they're always collected offscreen by gods. In fact, being planet-sized greatly limits their storytelling capabilities, because it means there can't really be an arc where, like, Goku and Vegeta visit Universe 6's Saiyan planet to find the Super Dragon Ball hidden there or something.
All in all, they're pretty underwhelming. Visibly awesome but very limited narrative value.
edited 11th Jan '18 2:27:13 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.So I just checked the wiki, and Piccolo is indeed a member of the Dragon clan (hence his ability to use Clothes Beam and make an hourglass), just not as good as is needed to make Dragon Balls). Maybe that's because that was a Kami-level thing and he didn't absorb all of Kami's skill upon fusing? He did get King Piccolo's eternal youth though...
I wonder... if Cell trained in magic, would he be able to make his own Dragon Balls? Could Piccolo?
Well, his sort of armour plates look kinda similar to Freeza's from a certain angle, and of course he's green because Namekians... as for that Crown thing, I dunno. Maybe it's Saiyan hair run through the Namek and Freeza filters.
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I only remembered enough medical science to get the "ileo" part of that, but that general range is enough info.
Also, there are some things where the wiki is more useful than Kanzenshuu.
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If he went Super Cell 3, would his crown grow? If he obtained his final form, would it disappear?
edited 11th Jan '18 3:14:42 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Though to be fair I don't think anyone before then tested the limits of immortality there is usually a difference between being unable to die and being completely invulnerable.
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