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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#29201: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:50:35 PM

Goku and Chi-Chi's marriage is a trainwreck.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#29202: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:51:29 PM

With the irony in that Vegeta & Krillen's especially Vegeta's marriage are all doing fine.

edited 6th Jan '18 11:58:01 PM by slimcoder

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#29203: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:57:26 PM

Pretty much every other couple in the series has a healthier relationship than Goku and Chi-Chi.

Which is a shame. I liked that filler arc at the end of Dragon Ball where Goku and Chi-Chi go on a journey together to save Ox King from a ridiculously contrived bit of danger.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#29204: Jan 6th 2018 at 11:59:38 PM

Though in Vegeta's case its cause Bulma doesn't really rag on him.

She has no expectations for him cause he is for all intents & purposes a trophy husband.

Krillen is a genuinely good spouse.

edited 7th Jan '18 12:00:03 AM by slimcoder

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#29205: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:08:59 AM

Is he? We never see him as a spouse. He does send her to the kitchen for the sake of his pride, though.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#29206: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:11:37 AM

It's best not to describe anybody as a good significant other in DB...

There kind of needs to be an example of such...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#29207: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:13:23 AM

[up][up] Well disregarding the stupidity of Resurrection F of course.

Dude's a working Joe & has no problems with it.

So automatically he's better than Carrot & Vegetable.

Okay yeah its hard to find good examples in DB.

edited 7th Jan '18 12:13:53 AM by slimcoder

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Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#29208: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:23:09 AM

What about Gohan and Videl?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#29209: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:25:04 AM

Another example of us just not seeing the relationship once its official

Super has a moment of Videl showing her trust in Gohan when Barry tries to frame him as a cheater

That's good

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#29210: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:28:50 AM

Yeah I wish they'd show us more of the fluff in the relationships.

Honestly I would like to see Gohan & Videl's wedding.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#29211: Jan 7th 2018 at 9:04:20 AM

Gohan and Videl fight crime together. That's about as successful as a marriage can get. tongue

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#29212: Jan 7th 2018 at 9:53:23 AM

How much is a Zeni worth? Is it like a Yen, or a Woolong? That is to say, one Zeni is about 1 cent?

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29213: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:09:14 AM

[up]I'd guess they have a value comparable to Yen.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#29214: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:31:31 AM

I wonder if Toriyama ever put as much thought into these relationships as we do.

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#29215: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:32:40 AM

[up] I mean, we can never be sure, but I would bet my life on "no".

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29217: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:37:52 AM

Absolutely not. Relationships in Dragonball are obviously just another part of his trademark comedy.

edited 7th Jan '18 10:38:50 AM by Kayeka

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#29218: Jan 7th 2018 at 10:40:25 AM

Is he? We never see him as a spouse. He does send her to the kitchen for the sake of his pride, though.

We should ignore that and not use one stupid moment of writing to characterize their marriage.

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#29219: Jan 7th 2018 at 11:01:13 AM

Also, someone should stay behind and protect Marron. Where were they going to find a sitter at such short notice?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#29220: Jan 7th 2018 at 11:06:41 AM

There's always Gotendo...

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#29221: Jan 7th 2018 at 11:34:58 AM

Basically, it was because they cared more about having the plot go the way they wanted then making things make sense, hence keeping 18 out, and keeping Goten and Trunks away (in the movie version, but not Super).

Buu...well I've made my feelings on them cutting out Buu very very clear. I'm sick of them taking that shortcut.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#29222: Jan 7th 2018 at 12:57:09 PM

[up][up][up] Or... get Kuririn to do it. Because the threat isn't at Marron, and it would only threaten Marron if the frontliners failed to defeat Freeza and his men over near East City. There is absolutely no reason to send Kuririn over 18.

[up][up][up][up] It's the only example we have, though. Though my point wasn't to judge it just on that scene but say we haven't seen enough to call them good spouses.

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#29223: Jan 7th 2018 at 1:24:52 PM

What a character or set of characters is shown to be doing onscreen is generally assumed to be indicative of what they're doing offscreen. For instance, if every time a character pops up onscreen, he's grifting people, it's generally assumed that he spends a lot of time grifting people offscreen unless it is explicitly noted in the scene that grifting people is unusual behavior for him.

It's sorta like an expanded version of the Tethercat Principle. This can create issues with characters or dynamics that get very little screentime, especially romantic couples. If every time a couple shows up onscreen, they're fighting, then the audience assumes that most of their time is spent fighting. This is true even if we only spend a combined five minutes with the couple over the course of thirty years.

edited 7th Jan '18 1:25:34 PM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#29224: Jan 7th 2018 at 1:25:38 PM

Yeah. As much as I love Krillin, and as great as it was to see him seriously back in combat (even if I admit that the entire mass battle sequence was poorly handled since the mechanics of DB mean that Gohan alone should have been able to beat that entire group by himself), I admit that it does make more sense for Krillin to stay and 18 to go (outside of the fact that Frieza's men would have a easier time finding Krillin since he does have Ki, but only if he somehow forgot to keep it low).

But since she's the woman, her power doesn't matter unfortunately, so he goes and she stays.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#29225: Jan 7th 2018 at 1:34:16 PM

Goku's undeniably a bad father, but it's not surprising, considering he's literally a brain-damaged, uneducated manchild who pretty much raised himself.

Really, he and Chi-Chi are basically the same. Neither of them are bad parents through any malice, but they're both clearly ill-equipped to properly raise their kids healthily. Chi-Chi's overbearing with Gohan, but she wants what's best for him. She's just, you know, not exactly on the money about what's best for him. Goku... well, he's objectively an absent father. Sometimes by circumstance, but more often than not, by choice. Staying dead after Cell is near indefensible. Yes, he thought staying dead would be safer for everyone. Except that's inexcusably stupid and given the myriad of ways he could have communicated with his family if we was dead, the fact he didn't do that more is just... bad.

But like I said. He's not just an Idiot Hero, he's brain-damaged hero. We can't expect that much from him.

edited 7th Jan '18 1:35:26 PM by Larkmarn

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