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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28926: Dec 26th 2017 at 8:49:17 AM

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...that sounds about right actually.

Really my only problems with this one were that the Santa plotline meant no tuffle backstories in abridged, ever (since they're likely never going to do GT) and no joke around revenge on the Saiyans somehow includes piccolo as a target and Turles as an ally.

Actually yeah, that was a good missed opportunity, but what we got was still good.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#28927: Dec 26th 2017 at 9:19:37 AM

[up]That quote right there points out a probable reason for the change: inconsistency. It doesn't make sense for Turles to be there, or anger at Piccolo (not that Santa's anger at Piccolo made sense anyway).

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28928: Dec 26th 2017 at 10:02:38 AM

Not really. Turles was a ghost controlled by the hatred of the biggest Saiyan hater in the universe. That he himself was a Saiyan was incidental.

As for why Piccolo was hated as well, likely guilt by association; the entire original plan was to destroy the entirety of earth to kill 4 saiyans, two of who were born after the war with the Tuffles, one of whom was a protector who rejected his heritage, and the last...well is Vegeta.

There was no logic in his actions. Just pure unbridled hatred. He didn't care who he killed as long as those Saiyans all died too.

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TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
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#28929: Dec 26th 2017 at 10:48:41 AM

[up] My personal justification for Turles was that he hated his own people so he was able to fuel hatchiyak. Still, I think directly attacking piccolo was a bit weird, even though the logic of Lyychi being to hate-filled to care who gets caught in his path to revenge makes plenty sense.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#28930: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:46:34 AM

Or maybe he's jealous of Piccolo being pretty much Jesus, which is the other major reason Christmas is a thing. I meant Santa, not Turles.

edited 26th Dec '17 11:47:05 AM by Weirdguy149

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#28931: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:54:39 AM

Huh. Piccolo died for Goku's sins sons.

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#28932: Dec 26th 2017 at 12:33:00 PM

Piccolo sacrificed himself to protect Gohan, a Saiyan, from being murdered by Nappa, another Saiyan. In doing so, he inadvertently brought about the journey to Namek to find the Namekian Dragon Balls, which would ultimately result in one of the two last surviving pure-blooded Saiyans defeating Frieza in the name of their race, while the other took his first steps towards redemption.

Piccolo gave his life for the sins of the Saiyans, and in doing so, he brought salvation to their race.

Truly, our Lord Kami in the Lookout does work in mysterious ways.

edited 26th Dec '17 12:33:12 PM by TobiasDrake

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#28933: Dec 26th 2017 at 12:56:43 PM

That and he's technically the son of God. ...Or is it the son of the Devil?

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#28934: Dec 26th 2017 at 12:57:51 PM

Still watching, but Cooler is the best villain.

Yeah, I think Frieza is a great villain, too.

and no joke around revenge on the Saiyans somehow includes piccolo as a target and Turles as an ally.

Turles was upset at Frieza's racism.

edited 26th Dec '17 1:03:39 PM by Hobgoblin

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#28935: Dec 26th 2017 at 11:06:29 PM

Santa's targets still don't make an awful lot of sense here (for one, he condemns Piccolo solely for things he has long since forsaken, for another, he pardons Gohan but tries to kill him anyway), but now it's played for laughs instead.

The whole scene where Santa was breaking down their sins (except Gohan) I kept thinking of both the gag from Futurama where everyone is deemed naughty enough by Santa to die except Zoidberg (which was almost certainly intentional), and weirdly enough the gag from Eight Bit Theater where the Big Bad points out that the Nominal Heroes are all horrible monsters who deserve to die... except the Token Good Teammate, who just happens to be a casualty.

edited 26th Dec '17 11:08:37 PM by KnownUnknown

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#28936: Dec 27th 2017 at 1:52:41 AM

Yeah, I kept expecting Gohan to ask why Santa was beating him up all of a sudden.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#28937: Dec 27th 2017 at 3:18:23 AM

...

Seriously, I'd love to see Abridged Freeza and Cell interact.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#28938: Dec 27th 2017 at 3:28:03 AM

Unless they just decide to do "that" GT saga...

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#28939: Dec 27th 2017 at 4:51:53 AM

I wish they'd do GT, because it'd be interesting.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#28940: Dec 27th 2017 at 4:56:45 AM

The otherworld tournament starts with them teaming up just to job to Pikkon, after all.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#28941: Dec 27th 2017 at 5:09:16 AM

I don't think they really talk though...they just show up, taunt, and defeated.

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#28942: Dec 27th 2017 at 5:53:59 AM

I'm surprised there weren't any cracks about Piccolo being Gohan's surrogate dad on this holiday of families.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#28943: Dec 27th 2017 at 5:59:36 AM

[up][up]Frieza and Cooler don't really talk in The Plan to Eradicate Super Saiyans either, though, and the Abridged version changes that up.

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#28944: Dec 27th 2017 at 6:09:19 AM

[up][up] Either we're done with that or someone forgot.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28945: Dec 27th 2017 at 6:14:59 AM

They also like joking about how Piccolo either has no one to do anything with or doesn't like doing anything with people when they're around.

Kaiser has also mentioned he regrets reinforcing the whole "bad dad Goku" bit, so there's that.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28946: Dec 27th 2017 at 8:38:08 AM

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Good to hear. That joke has gotten way out of control.

Hell even the canon series is doing it!

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#28947: Dec 27th 2017 at 8:47:42 AM

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I'm surprised there weren't any cracks about Piccolo being Gohan's surrogate dad on this holiday of families.

Yeah i was half-expecting when Santa was listing off the reasons why the heroes were on the naughty list, it was going to lead to another "Goku's a shitty father lol" punchline.

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#28948: Dec 27th 2017 at 8:49:39 AM

I remember back before the Cell arc began, possibly while they were still on Namek, people in this thread just assuming that Gohan would go SS 2 because of anger to Goku... and that assumption persisting even after their relationship markedly improved while training for the Androids.

Some of that "Bad dad Goku" reinforcement is on you guys.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#28949: Dec 27th 2017 at 8:52:22 AM

Not when they kept beating that dead horse, even going into the Broly movie.

edited 27th Dec '17 8:52:31 AM by Lionheart0

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#28950: Dec 27th 2017 at 9:05:10 AM

Obviously Gohan will get angry when 16 tells him that Cell killed Icarus.

In hindsight, that joke was Early-Installment Weirdness given how the first Cooler movie went.


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