That was after Goku appeared though, while Gohan was busy looking for an earring. Gohan could have defeated the unfused form yes, but it didnt matter since he got absorbed afterwards.
Though yes Gohan was trying to buy time once he realized he could not win in a fight. But he could not hide from Buu or get away.
Buu had about 10 more minutes of fusing time left, but he was about to blow up the planet so its not like Goku could have chosen the dick-option of just waiting for the 10 minutes to pass. (letting Gohan die, the earth blow up, and wishing all back later. though thats what happened anyway)
Heck Goku wouldnt even be able to beat Picollo-Buu on his own either (regardless of what the anime implied)
though he might have been able to teleport Gohan to a safe distance and wait on Kais planet I guess
edited 30th Jan '13 12:15:33 PM by Medigo0
Fusion saga:
Bee < Dende < Tien < Goten ~= Trunks < Piccolo < Vegeta < Gotenks = Super Buu (Base) < Goku < Super Buu (Piccolo Absorbed) < Gohan < Super Buu (Gotenks Absorbed) < Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed) < Vegito <<<<<< Mr. Satan
I think Goku is a bit stronger than Gotenks and therefore probably a little bit stronger than base form Super Buu? He was a little bit stronger than Fat Buu and Fat Buu is the same strength as Super Buu (Just less ruthless).
edited 30th Jan '13 12:33:13 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!I'd say its debatable whether or not Goku was stronger than Base Super Buu. Considering he was affraid to go out there and face him without fusion. (When he was inside him, I mean)
Also Goku didnt plan on Gotenks needing SSJ 3 to beat Fat Buu. (he didnt plan on Super Buu either, so SSJ 3 Gotenks was a lucky consequence)
I cant see SSJ Gotenks being weaker than SSJ Goku for that reason. (Probably weaker than SSJ 3 Goku, who admits he could have beaten Fat Buu)
And lets not even bring Kid Buu into this equation.
edited 30th Jan '13 12:48:22 PM by Medigo0
Was he afraid to go out and face him because he had no idea how much Buu's power would have dropped? Or because he was unfamiliar with Super Buu? I'd say he's weaker than Super Buu and Gotenks, but then that would mean he's weaker than the first Fat Buu, since Fat Buu and Super Buu are the same thing just rearranged...
Maybe Fat Buu is stronger than Goku but his childishness and semi-pacifism means Goku could beat him despite being weaker?
Kid Buu is easy. He's weaker than Super/Fat Buu and Gotenks but stronger than Vegeta. Bear in mind the Supreme Kai's remark that Kid Buu is more powerful and absorbing the Grand Supreme Kai weakened him is a mistranslation. The proper word is "tamed". Fat Buu is more powerful than Kid Buu, he's just too silly and friendly to be as dangerous.
edited 30th Jan '13 12:59:14 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Not sure about the Manga, but in the anime, Goku did acknowledge that they didn't need to fuse anymore. By that point though Buu had already laid his plans into motion and absorbed Gohan shortly afterwards.
No, Fat Boo and Super Boo are not the same thing rearranged. Super Boo is much stronger, his ki is described as being "completely different". Kid Boo is not weaker than Fat Boo, because Fat Boo's power is explicitly lowered from absorbing the Dai Kaioshin. That isn't a mistranslation, Anom. That's what it says in the Japanese manga.
Everything in the manga points to Gotenks being stronger than Goku, especially since Goku was terrified of fighting Super Boo (he flat out states that he'll get killed if he fights him without fusing) and had so much faith in Gotenks.
Gotenks + Super Boo = A Boo that's twice as strong as before. That's why he was so powerful compared to Gohan. And Gohan did a damn good job stalling, considering he lasted nearly the full 30 minutes.
If Goku couldn't beat Piccolo-Boo, there's no way he could beat Super Boo. There would be next to no difference in Boo's power from absorbing Piccolo and the kids.
@Wander Gohan was trying to stall out the fusion but using potara was an instant solution. Also Goku neglected to mention that it was permanent so Gohan wouldn't have seen any reason not to.
Oh yeah and I disagree about putting Piccolo above Goten and Trunks, I think with Super Saiyan the boys are stronger (they power up and it freaks Piccolo out).
edited 30th Jan '13 3:05:58 PM by Saiga
Goten and Trunks both went back to base form though if I'm not mistaken, which is why Piccolo became the "dominant form."
edited 30th Jan '13 3:24:36 PM by Lionheart0
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No, it's fine. A lot of what you said is widely held fanon.
And I agree on the Kienzan. It's the same with the Mankankosappo or the Kikoho. I think everything else I use the dub name for.
The dominant fusee might not really be the strongest. After all, South Kaioshin was stated to be the strongest Kaioshin and yet Dai Kaioshin had a greater influence on Boo.
edited 30th Jan '13 3:37:27 PM by Saiga
Special Beam Cannon and Tri-Beam.
And that's possible but East Kaioshin's wording doesn't really imply that. He says "of all the Kaioshin" and Dai Kaioshin is still a Kaioshin while being more than that.
What I find interesting is that Piccolo isn't exactly the dominant influence after the fusion. He's got Piccolo's cape, yes, but he still has the more human features and fingers along with the longer tentacle that presumably come from the boys. I say this because later when Goku/Vegeta remove everyone but save Piccolo for last, we see a shot of Boo with only Piccolo absorbed and he's got Piccolo's purple clothes and his normal, less humanlike features (uglier face, less fingers, etc).
edited 30th Jan '13 4:00:34 PM by Saiga
Yes, it does.
Arale is from a different series. Well, the powerful one I mean. The penguin village and Arale in Dragon Ball aren't the same ones from Dr. Slump.
edited 30th Jan '13 4:01:33 PM by Saiga
I actually like "special beam cannon" if only for the Abridged exchange between Nail and Piccolo. "Last I checked, cannons don't drill things." "That's what makes it special!" So I still prefer to use that, plus its silliness kinda makes it cool.
Tri-beam is cool sounding, but it sorta confuses me how it's diamond-shaped...
And I assumed Piccolo-dominant Buu looking different was just inconsistency rather than a result of the kids.
edited 30th Jan '13 4:02:49 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

That's because he was trying to stall out the fusion. Which as I mentioned, he almost succeeded in.