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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#28526: Sep 1st 2017 at 5:30:13 AM

Vegeta/Tien and Vegeta/Yamcha are my favorite interactions.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#28527: Sep 1st 2017 at 1:41:30 PM

I'm personally enamoured with that bizarre mutual interest Goku and Cell have.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#28528: Sep 1st 2017 at 1:42:40 PM

Piccolo, Kami and Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail.

Piccolo also has great interactions with Goku.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#28529: Sep 5th 2017 at 6:10:45 AM

Piccolo is easily my favorite in DBZA, and the Piccolo/Nail conversations are among Piccolo's best scenes.

So... yeah. Those.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#28530: Sep 5th 2017 at 9:16:38 AM

It's kinda weird how Nail just disappeared from the series after Frieza started beating up Piccolo.

I know he was going to get assimilated eventually, but it's still pretty strange that he was talking through Piccolo for a bit and then just is suddenly gone.

edited 5th Sep '17 9:20:02 AM by Hobgoblin

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#28531: Sep 5th 2017 at 10:25:31 AM

I wish he would disappear from DBZA.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28532: Sep 5th 2017 at 10:29:10 AM

Him sticking around for any period of time was dub addition as far as I know. He was supposed to fade away into Piccolo's subconscious immediately. He and Piccolo didn't really "fuse" so much as Piccolo "ate" him.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#28533: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:56:23 AM

The Piccolo/Nail conversations are great.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#28534: Sep 5th 2017 at 3:45:01 PM

[up][up]Wait, what? No, Nail after fusing with Piccolo wasn't in the dub. That was exclusively Abridged, unless you count Dende asking if Nail is in Piccolo and Piccolo giving a non-response.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28535: Sep 5th 2017 at 3:47:20 PM

[up]No, there were explicitly moments in the old dub where we hear Nail's thoughts, and at least once Piccolo speaks in his voice. It's not in Kai or anything, but yes, that's a thing that happened.

edited 5th Sep '17 4:29:45 PM by LSBK

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#28536: Sep 5th 2017 at 3:51:08 PM

What. I have never heard of this before, and though I never watched the original anime, I feel like that would've been the first thing mentioned when people were praising Abridged for having Nail stick around in Piccolo's head as a hilarious writing choice.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28537: Sep 5th 2017 at 3:57:59 PM

Well, I don't really know what to tell you about that. It was mostly in moments relating to Dende when they did it, when he tells Dende to go heal Vegeta, when Frieza kills Dende, when Dende is recreating the Dragon Balls, etc.

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#28538: Sep 5th 2017 at 4:23:48 PM

Toei made so many bad choices.

The American dub team made so many more bad choices.

It's understandable that some wind up overlooked.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28539: Sep 5th 2017 at 4:54:02 PM

Yeah. I remember the old Ocean Group dub having Piccolo sometimes speak in Nail's voice to Dende, and also while fighting Frieza as well.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#28540: Sep 5th 2017 at 5:02:30 PM

Seems like an alright choice to me.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#28541: Sep 5th 2017 at 6:03:40 PM

No but the dub tho

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#28542: Sep 5th 2017 at 11:42:42 PM

No, there were explicitly moments in the old dub where we hear Nail's thoughts, and at least once Piccolo speaks in his voice

Oh, that was dub filler? That explains the oddity, then, much like Frieza speaking in his native language.

Man, old DBZ was weird.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#28543: Sep 6th 2017 at 12:13:19 AM

Wait, what about Freeza speaking in his native language? Is there any other goofy parts from the old dub that I'd be interested in?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#28544: Sep 6th 2017 at 12:17:08 AM

Apparently, speaking Frieza's language requires you to have a seizure and a stroke at the same time.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#28545: Sep 6th 2017 at 12:31:16 AM

That's not even close to what I imagined Freeza's native language would sound like. I'm laughing so hard at it! [lol]

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#28546: Sep 6th 2017 at 4:51:18 AM

Ah, it's all coming back to me. Only time the series ever acknowledged a language barrier and it was a filler addition.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#28547: Sep 6th 2017 at 6:59:50 AM

Everyone in anime knows the universal language of Japanese English.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28548: Sep 6th 2017 at 7:01:53 AM

Well, there was also the time Moori tried playing Frieza and his men off by pretending he and his village only spoke Namekian and not...whatever the universal language is called. Frieza called the bluff, but still.

edited 6th Sep '17 10:04:04 AM by LSBK

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#28549: Sep 6th 2017 at 8:42:21 AM

[up] Honestly, bringing up exceptions to the inexplicable universal language just makes it worse.

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#28550: Sep 6th 2017 at 9:56:06 AM

Ignoring the language barrier is by and large a Necessary Weasel for any story dealing with multiple cultures, especially alien cultures. Unless you actually intend to address it, whether by way of a Hand Wave such as a universal translator or by actually making the struggle to understand one another a major plot point, it - like most Weasels - is best ignored.

Shining a spotlight on a Necessary Weasel for a gag introduces a conversation into the audience's Suspension of Disbelief that your story should be trying to avoid. It's actually easier to suspend disbelief for a universal language just happening to exist than it is when one or two characters conspicuously fail to abide it.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: do not lampshade your Necessary Weasels. Calling attention to things that deeply undermine your premise but that your audience is absolutely willing to give you a pass on otherwise will always do your story more harm than good.

edited 6th Sep '17 9:58:00 AM by TobiasDrake

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