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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#28451: Aug 3rd 2017 at 4:14:55 AM

Yeah but I'm pretty sure we'd see something that's on a direct course towards Earth. Especially once it got closer. It doesn't take long for a Super Saiyan to cross the globe, either.

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#28453: Aug 3rd 2017 at 5:15:23 AM

Can if your power level is high enough.

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#28454: Aug 3rd 2017 at 5:30:19 AM

Basically we just need to get a bunch of radar operator and have them do push ups in high gravity. This will let them spot objects moving at FTL.

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#28455: Aug 3rd 2017 at 5:43:08 AM

[up][up] Or if your tech is good enough.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28456: Aug 3rd 2017 at 6:03:23 AM

Come to think of it, how come there's no sign of any radars picking up Frieza's ships...or even Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta's? Does this Earth have no kind of Space monitoring program...or a space program at all?

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#28457: Aug 3rd 2017 at 6:04:26 AM

wild mass guessFrieza's ships have stealth mode engaged

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28458: Aug 3rd 2017 at 6:07:55 AM

I doubt Frieza is one to bother with stealth. After all, when you are stronger than everyone barring gods, what's the point of hiding your position.

I'm just gonna go with my usual explanation of Toriyama didn't think of it. After all, it doesn't matter what the rest of Earth is doing. It's only important when it comes to the Z Warriors.

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#28459: Aug 3rd 2017 at 6:18:39 AM

[up] To be fair, "It doesn't matter what everyone other than the main characters is doing" is true for basically every story except High Fantasy works.

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#28460: Aug 3rd 2017 at 6:24:28 AM

Radar Operator power level is too low, obviously.

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#28461: Aug 3rd 2017 at 10:57:30 AM

Yeah but I'm pretty sure we'd see something that's on a direct course towards Earth. Especially once it got closer. It doesn't take long for a Super Saiyan to cross the globe, either.

Honestly, we don't actually know what the transit time on globetrotting is. The time it takes to fly across the planet seems to be somewhere between the length of a conversation and several hours, which is a fairly significant margin.

In any case, destroying Frieza's ship still makes sense as a precautionary measure. That a possibility exists that retribution from the PTO could be scuttled is no reason to invite that retribution when an alternative option is present.

Like, I don't care if you've spent twenty years mastering the art of bullet-catching, if you walk around dark alleys daring people to shoot you, you're an idiot. The first and most important form of self-defense is to try and avoid finding yourself in situations where self-defense is needed in the first place.

edited 3rd Aug '17 10:57:46 AM by TobiasDrake

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#28462: Aug 3rd 2017 at 12:07:03 PM

Well especially given the existence of New Namek, a working spaceship would be tremendously useful.

Hell, if Trunks had the ability to get to New Namek then a lot of the issues in his timeline would be rendered completely trivial.

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#28463: Aug 3rd 2017 at 12:34:31 PM

There wouldn't even be a New Namek if Earth didn't already have the ability to build working spaceships. Trunks's grandfather built the one that got Goku to Namek in six days. Being able to travel through space is not the problem.

Finding New Namek is the problem. Goku was only able to get there courtesy of directions from Kaio-sama and he seems to have just f*cked off in Trunks's timeline. Without his guidance, the universe is a very big place.

In any case, this is all beside the point. The most likely rationale for Trunks blowing up Frieza's ship is probably that it got destroyed during Goku and Frieza's rematch in the original timeline.

Trunks doesn't care one way or the other. He's not here to stop Frieza. He's not here to help mankind reach interstellar horizons. This is not the point in time that he's trying to intercept. He only stepped in because he didn't know Goku could teleport. Shoring up the timelines to avoid impacting history too greatly during what was supposed to be a brief conversation and drop-off of medication is the simplest motivation here.

edited 3rd Aug '17 12:35:40 PM by TobiasDrake

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#28464: Aug 3rd 2017 at 1:17:40 PM

Finding New Namek is the problem. Goku was only able to get there courtesy of directions from Kaio-sama and he seems to have just f*cked off in Trunks's timeline. Without his guidance, the universe is a very big place.

Has Toriyama ever given any explanation for why King Kai made no attempt to help in Trunks' timeline? Where the hell did he go?

...You know, before Zamasu came a calling.

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#28465: Aug 3rd 2017 at 1:24:50 PM

I mean it's not like helping is a part of his hob description. The times he did seem weirder than him not doing anything.

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#28466: Aug 3rd 2017 at 2:05:19 PM

You know, its strikes me now that Trunks never bothered to ask Shin where New Namek was, either. Trunks totally had the power to make his future way less shitty.

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#28467: Aug 3rd 2017 at 2:09:00 PM

Does future Trunks actually know about King Kai or New Namek? I don't think any of the Gokus from the various timelines he's been in told him about either.

And Goku Black Arc Trunks isn't the same as Time Patrol Trunks, right?

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#28468: Aug 3rd 2017 at 2:12:48 PM

My pet theory for Kaio-sama not helping is that he stopped paying attention after Goku died. Like nearly everyone else in the cast, he's a satellite character. Goku is his prized pupil, so all the times he pitched in were done specifically to help Goku and not out of any kind of general love of Earth and its people.

Once Goku succumbed to his heart illness, Kaio-sama probably did the same thing he did when Cell's self-destruction killed him, just a year or so earlier. So we're left with a situation where neither Bulma nor Trunks has any means to contact Kaoi-sama and Kaio-sama stopped caring enough to follow the events on Earth nearly two decades ago.

edited 3rd Aug '17 2:13:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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#28469: Aug 3rd 2017 at 2:46:54 PM

Trunks should know there was a New Namek and dragon balls given that Gohan, King Kai and Shin all knew about them. Shin is a really shitty Supreme Kai.

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#28470: Aug 3rd 2017 at 3:29:26 PM

Kaioshin didn't step in when Frieza's forces were purging various planets of life. A pair of Androids terrorizing one planet for the better part of twenty years is way below his pay grade. it's a big universe and there's a lot of stuff happening in it at any given moment. Anything less than a god-killing abomination isn't his jurisdiction.

As for Gohan, knowing that New Namek exists and knowing where in the infinite span of the cosmos it is are two entirely different things.

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#28471: Aug 3rd 2017 at 5:40:26 PM

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that when Trunks and Shin were training before the Black Arc started, there was absolutely no reason they couldn't have gone to New Namek and used the dragon balls. Trunks should know about Namek. Shin should know about dragon balls.

edited 3rd Aug '17 5:42:13 PM by Zeromaeus

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#28472: Aug 3rd 2017 at 5:46:45 PM

While Trunks should know about Namek because of Dende, Shin clearly doesn't know about the Dragon Balls given some of his reactions and statements in the Boo Saga (like his confusion as to how Kibito could be alive).

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#28473: Aug 7th 2017 at 10:50:34 AM

There wouldn't even be a New Namek if Earth didn't already have the ability to build working spaceships. Trunks's grandfather built the one that got Goku to Namek in six days. Being able to travel through space is not the problem.

... you mean the spaceship that he built using parts of Goku's space pod? And then he built another one from scratch for Chichi that blew up upon launch (though I assume that's filler)?

That said, I did just remember that he did build a working one for Vegeta so that's moot.

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#28474: Aug 7th 2017 at 11:03:40 AM

The one he built for Chi-Chi is filler, yes. I'd say 90% of the original Dragon Ball Z anime was filler.

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#28475: Aug 7th 2017 at 11:47:12 AM

Would anyone like to see Doug Walker, A.K.A. the Nostalgia Critic in DBZ Abridged?

Both him and Linkara cameo'd in their Attack on Titan abridged video.


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