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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#27927: Jun 26th 2017 at 1:00:18 PM

Which, doesn't really explain how Gohan could have been borne, or why Goku is still married to Chichi, unless we're supposed to go down that dark route that everyone is already thinking.

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#27928: Jun 26th 2017 at 1:14:43 PM

Maybe he just left his wife for his new bugman rival.

It's kind of funny, though. Out of all of the arcs, the Cell Arc is the one where Goku's probably the least merciful that he is in all of the series. He never considers sparing Cell or the Androids, as I recall.

edited 26th Jun '17 1:15:27 PM by Hobgoblin

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#27929: Jun 26th 2017 at 1:15:40 PM

^^ Goku is bisexual and supportive of open relationships?

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#27930: Jun 26th 2017 at 1:25:11 PM

Goku's one of those people who discovers their homosexuality late in life?

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#27931: Jun 26th 2017 at 1:29:58 PM

I guess that means we all don't actually know what that means.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#27932: Jun 26th 2017 at 1:51:40 PM

...I was actually going with Gohan being a child of rape, and Goku only staying because he has Stockholm Syndrome. Guess I should be glad people aren't this dark on this thread.

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#27933: Jun 26th 2017 at 1:55:41 PM

...dude, why would anybody think that. That's...I don't even know what that is.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27934: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:02:24 PM

Well, a lot of people went to rape with the Goku and Chichi sex scene. They actually shoehorned in a him explicitly saying it wasn't because so many people were either complaining or making jokes about it.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#27935: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:12:19 PM

It really did not come as a comfortable moment. I like how they fixed it.

Also Saiyans go for fighters right?

Maybe the species is just naturally attracted to strong fighters.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#27936: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:13:44 PM

I mean, you got to admit Chichi was very aggressive in those scenes, and Goku was clearly showing signs he was uncomfortable and was just going along with what Chichi wanted. So I'm not surprised the joke didn't land with some people.

edited 26th Jun '17 2:14:02 PM by xanderiskander

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27937: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:17:37 PM

I get why people went there. The only reason I didn't is because I'm sure they wouldn't intentionally do a rape scene and play it for laughs. But as for unintentional reactions, well...

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#27938: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:27:23 PM

[up] They have before. More than once.

edited 26th Jun '17 2:27:32 PM by Zelenal

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#27939: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:28:24 PM

I'm pretty sure there's a part in Super where Vegeta says that Bulma and Chi-chi are a lot like female saiyans and that's why he and Goku gravitated to them. Then Piccolo's all like, "this explains so much."

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27940: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:29:20 PM

They've dabbled with rape implications, but they've never actually gone through with it like "this character was raped, laugh at it". And really, at this point I think they've moved away from comedy like that. I don't think Kaiser is particularly comfortable with it anymore.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#27941: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:31:48 PM

They made a pretty blatant rape joke in the 'I'll make a man out of you' video at the very least. Ha ha Krillin got raped so funny.

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#27942: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:42:44 PM

For what it's worth, ARDBZ Goku was VERY bisexual.

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#27943: Jun 26th 2017 at 2:42:48 PM

Early DBZA writing...at its very extreme.

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#27944: Jun 26th 2017 at 3:00:51 PM

Hey, Cell's handsome. And Goku ain't afraid to recognize that.

He won't cheat, but he's not not tempted.

He'd totally cheat.

"Are you asking me to take my clothes off? Because I'll do it, but I probably shouldn't...."

edited 26th Jun '17 3:08:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#27945: Jun 26th 2017 at 3:03:49 PM

Its just Foe Yay. Also well Cell loves himself and Goku loves a good fight so they make a perfect match.

Also Goku being part of Cell makes it so only Cell can really understand what is going on in that damaged mind.

edited 26th Jun '17 3:06:58 PM by Memers

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#27946: Jun 26th 2017 at 3:09:52 PM

I should note that I love what they've done with Cell's personality. They've solved his motivation problem by giving him the same single-minded focus on Goku as the other Androids, while still making him distinctive by making it not about Gero's purpose for him, but about greatness. He doesn't want to kill Goku. He wants to defeat Goku.

Like, Androids 16-20 probably would have been content to shank Goku in his sleep, but as Cell puts it, all of this was for his benefit. The wait, the ring, the killing and threats, all to bring about this one culminating moment where he gets to prove himself by locking blows with Son Goku. Just like Piccolo, Vegeta, or Frieza before him did.

It's the bit of Goku himself in Cell that's driving him now to pursue the only fight that matters against the only foe he, with all his bitter rival cells, truly respects. It's a really good interpretation of Cell, and the naked exuberance he has at the prospect of this fight really helps to distinguish him from Vegeta and Frieza, for whom having to fight Goku was a karmic punishment for being assholes.

TFS's Perfect Cell has a very profound and distinct personality that really helps them sell him as a character for me, where the original - being just another cruel egotist who wanted to show off how great he is - didn't.

edited 26th Jun '17 3:10:07 PM by TobiasDrake

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#27947: Jun 26th 2017 at 3:17:52 PM

It's why I think his reaction to Goku aiming his attack at the planet is so good. Especially in contrast to similar moments with Vegeta and Feeeza.

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#27948: Jun 26th 2017 at 3:45:56 PM

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Which makes me excited for the fight with Gohan, especially after the kid starts to kick his ass. Not only will his perfect self be losing, it won't even be to Goku.

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#27949: Jun 26th 2017 at 4:30:18 PM

Yeah, with how the villains have carried their arcs, I'm kinda curious how they'll handle Buu. I dunno about Fat or Kid Buu, but I suspect Super Buu will likely gain certain characteristics of those notable people he absorbs.

Also, they'd better keep the Incredible Fighting Candy segment of the Super Buu fight. It was the best kind of stupid.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27950: Jun 26th 2017 at 4:47:13 PM

In hindsight, the Cell Arc does something neat with Cell in general. You'll notice that all of the Cell Games participants, with the exception of Goku, Gohan, and Yamcha, had already​ been defeated by Cell before the tournament started. And Yamcha had been taken out by 20, who was clearly weaker than Cell.

Basically, he's invited everyone he's proven his superiority over to come watch his fight against the guy he was building himself up to battle.

And then Goku's just like "Okay, you win. But Gohan will get you."

No wonder he goes nuts at the end.


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