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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#27802: Jun 25th 2017 at 11:15:13 AM

Just mentally replace "worst ever" with "not great" in your head. No need to get angry over hyperbole.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#27803: Jun 25th 2017 at 11:31:08 AM

What does it mean to dot on someone? I doubt that it's anything like to dote on someone.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#27804: Jun 25th 2017 at 11:34:34 AM

I think dotting on someone would be like how Krillin got those dots on his head.

edited 25th Jun '17 11:35:29 AM by unnoun

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27805: Jun 25th 2017 at 12:46:45 PM

[up][up][up]Again, the issue is less "hyperbole" and people sincerely believing it over misinformation or lack of context. Though, I agree that getting upset over it might be a bit played out at this point. I won't stop being annoyed by it though.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#27806: Jun 25th 2017 at 1:05:00 PM

What misinformation? What lack of context? Goku does shitty things in the Cell games, and if people want to dislike him because of that it's entirely their prerogative.

edited 25th Jun '17 1:05:19 PM by Moth13

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27807: Jun 25th 2017 at 1:21:29 PM

Because they misrepresent what those mistakes actually were, and apply them to his entire relationship with his son. And then try and paint Piccolo and Vegeta as "better". It's pretty simple really.

I never said people couldn't dislike Goku (or anyone else), just that if they do, they should actually have their facts straight.

Frankly, you telling people what they should care about comes off as a little hypocritical.

edited 25th Jun '17 1:40:38 PM by LSBK

Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#27808: Jun 25th 2017 at 1:31:13 PM

Problem would be the Goku and Gohan don't get much time together on screen beyond training together so when the plan comes around there is nothing to counter the moments of the cell games. Sure most of it is Goku being dead so hard to spend time with family, but it does not help the preconception that the Cell Games and him throwing plan together without even telling Gohan until the last minute.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27809: Jun 25th 2017 at 1:34:03 PM

We don't see most of the characters' down time anyway, though.

edited 25th Jun '17 1:34:29 PM by LSBK

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#27810: Jun 25th 2017 at 1:38:37 PM

Didn't the anime add down time scenes for the timeskip before the android arc and the week before the cell games?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27811: Jun 25th 2017 at 1:43:14 PM

Yep. An episode about Gohan's birthday, Gohan helping some people against Mercenary Tao or something, Goku and Piccolo trying to get driver's licenses, family time, stuff like that.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#27812: Jun 25th 2017 at 1:51:16 PM

As a whole Super has more downtime than Z, largely due to shorter arcs. I like downtime because in Z the arcs get sooooo LONG.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27813: Jun 25th 2017 at 2:43:52 PM

All of the Saiyan Arc movies are weird because Goku has Kaioken in all of them (except Dead Zone, which has its own issues) while Piccolo and friends are still alive.

The only way it'd make sense would be if they took place after Namek and Goku just decides not to use Super Saiyan for some reason, which would be consistent with him using Kaioken against Cooler in both of his films. Doesn't account for Dead Zone, though, or False Super Saiyan in Lord Slug.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#27814: Jun 25th 2017 at 2:48:10 PM

The Cooler movie only makes sense if it takes place in a world where the Spirit Bomb killed Freeza and the fight with Cooler was the first time Goku turned Super Saiyan.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#27815: Jun 25th 2017 at 2:49:18 PM

People seem to focus a lot on the later jokes that paint Piccolo as a better father figure, and ignore all the early ones where he was a really shitty one. Like the ones about leaving Gohan alone with man-eating dinosaurs. Or how the "DODGE" joke is basically a dragonball variant on jokes about nerds being bad at / hating dodgeball.

edited 25th Jun '17 2:51:11 PM by xanderiskander

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27816: Jun 25th 2017 at 2:51:14 PM

He used Kaioken against Metal Cooler as well. For some reason.

In regards to DBZA Goku, pretty sure they're going to have Goku dying to Cell as the resolution of the "Gohan hates his dad" portion of jokes, which would lead into why DBZA Gohan would wear his gi.

Then again, Future Gohan wore a Goku outfit, too, and considered Piccolo his dad, so I could be wrong.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27817: Jun 25th 2017 at 2:51:56 PM

[up][up]Most people kind of disregard early Abridged in general.

edited 25th Jun '17 2:52:18 PM by LSBK

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#27818: Jun 25th 2017 at 2:59:00 PM

See, this is why Piccolo knows this is a bad idea.

He has first-hand experience with trying to send Gohan in against the big bad and assuming he'll rage out when he needs to.

edited 25th Jun '17 2:59:24 PM by Enlong

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#27819: Jun 25th 2017 at 3:05:40 PM

I figure it'll go: Gohan gets smacked around by Cell > Goku realizes his mistakes > Gohan goes Super Saiyan 2 > Gohan's anger issues with his dad cause problems and Cell ends up self destructing > Goku sacrifices himself and shows Gohan he does care in his own way > Cell comes back and Gohan can't do it at first > Goku telepathically reconciles with his son > heartwarming father-son Kamehameha.

Also I like the direction they've gone where Gohan being the one to beat Cell is the ultimate fuck you to him. Gonna be fun to see him break down when Super Saiyan 2 hits.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27820: Jun 25th 2017 at 3:08:03 PM

wild mass guessThe real reason Cell hates Vegeta so much is that he's jealous he's Goku's rival.wild mass guess

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#27821: Jun 25th 2017 at 3:09:32 PM

Why does everyone say nerds hate dodge-ball? I'm a nerd and I LOVED dodge-ball in gym.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#27822: Jun 25th 2017 at 3:11:19 PM

Dodgeball was fun. No one could hit me.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#27823: Jun 25th 2017 at 3:21:56 PM

Skipped a couple pages.

The US voice actors for Goku and Vegeta were at a panelI attended recently. They both agreed that Vegeta was the better father, husband, and lover. They also explained that because of how information was given out to the dubbers, they misunderstood the Goku character early on. He's not a hero, he just wants a good fight.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#27824: Jun 25th 2017 at 3:27:32 PM

Well... they're dumb.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27825: Jun 25th 2017 at 3:30:14 PM

If we're still talking about this, father is highly debatable for me, I'll give Vegeta husband, and lover...yeah, picturing either of them in that role is still basically impossible.

But in the end, they're just fans, like any other.


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