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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#27026: May 16th 2017 at 3:08:27 AM

Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch, I see.

I keep thinking about how people have trouble with Pluto not being a planet, just because they learned it that way when young and just outright refuse to elaborate on. Nostalgia sure is powerful.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#27027: May 16th 2017 at 3:24:14 AM

[up][up][up] I am fairly sure that tweet is just a joke from Herms, and didn't appear in the actual episode. That's the exact kind of joke tweet he does while reacting to episodes.

Roshi also got her to change into revealing clothes then chased her around trying to group her. He did manage to touch her a few times (when he was carrying her it was over a shoulder holding her by the ass) and when she attacks him ineffectively later she slips over and he takes the moment to look up her skirt.

It's quite bizarre how he decides to fight her when it's revealed she's plotting against Tenshinhan, but then they play it like her trying to ineffectively defend herself against his perversion. At least he gets kicked in the nuts after peeping up her skirt, but if we weren't meant to take is side why everything before it?

Prime_of_Perfection Where force fails, cunning prevails Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Where force fails, cunning prevails
#27028: May 16th 2017 at 4:32:25 AM

...Shit, he did do that... I've blanked on most of the specifics as I didn't care for the episode, I just recall Roshi creeping me out in this one as I felt it's one of the examples where he goes way too far.

With Roshi I feel his character as a whole takes the dirty old man thing too far. Reading porn or watching stuff? I don't care there. My problem with him is that I legitimately don't know where his limit is.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#27029: May 16th 2017 at 5:27:22 AM

I'll say this: I never thought I'd see the day when Goku Nd Freeza Becum Frinds became canon.

No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#27030: May 16th 2017 at 6:49:31 AM

So if falling on a rock gives Goku brain damage, but a bullet just bounces off his face, doesn't that mean that a rock is stronger than a gun?

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#27031: May 16th 2017 at 6:55:45 AM

Goku was younger and had a squishier skull when he smashed his head on a rock. Also, gravity was involved; he fell off a cliff.

Gravity can, in fact, punch you harder than bullets can.

As for Kame-sennin, like, I'm surprised they were so blatant about it, but I can't be surprised that he did it. Kame-sennin's been a creepy sex offender since the day we met him, when he bartered away a Dragon Ball in exchange for an underage girl undressing.

And then shortly after that, his requirement to train Goku and Krillin was that they go out and kidnap a woman to be his.

This is who he is.

edited 16th May '17 6:56:06 AM by TobiasDrake

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#27032: May 16th 2017 at 7:03:11 AM

Yeah, but they don't need to dedicate significant screentime to it. He appeared alongside the other characters at several points in the Boo arc without it coming up, he fought on-screen again in Resurrection F without it. It's very very easy to just drop that side of his character and focus on the good.

Too bad the writers clearly want to continue using him as a sex offender.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#27033: May 16th 2017 at 7:07:23 AM

...I'm still interested in whether that bullet would have hurt Goku if it had hit something other than his forehead. The part of the human skull which can actually deflect bullets in real life.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#27034: May 16th 2017 at 7:40:50 AM

Just embrace the madness, Rob. Your life will be so much easier.

The only embrace this kind of thing will get from me is the embrace of my hands around it's neck.

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Indeed. Ignoring how anyone might feel about Roshi fighting in the first place, it's better when he's shown as the powerful and wise master as opposed to the perverted idiot. Unfortunately, the perverted idiot side is good for jokes and will never die in a fire like it should.

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#27035: May 16th 2017 at 8:28:09 AM

Gravity can, in fact, punch you harder than bullets can.

Great quote. Gonna use that for my sig now.

Alfric Sailing the Skies! from Crescent Isle Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#27036: May 16th 2017 at 9:14:02 AM

Say, could I get a source or whatever on the whole "Freeza isn't a monster" thing that's come up? I'm not watching Super, but this has made me curious.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/lb_i.php?lb_id=13239183440B34964700 Alfric's Fire Emblem Liveblog Encyclopedia!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#27037: May 16th 2017 at 10:12:46 AM

I still stand by my interpretation of the Roshi scene: throughout it, he speaks of nothing else besides 'purifying' the wickedness in her soul. Thing is, she's the surprise villain of the episode, and she specializes in dark witchcraft. Furthermore, when this is revealed, Roshi claims that he knew it all along, though she says that he's lying. I choose to believe that he actually was going to use like, a magical massage or something, to purify the witchcraft from her body, and he just came off as really pervy because he is incapable of approaching women any other way.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#27038: May 16th 2017 at 10:30:32 AM

I think you are giving Roshi an extreme benefit of the doubt that he has not earned and is not supported by his actions.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#27039: May 16th 2017 at 10:35:33 AM

And from the reactions, it sounds like the camera did not agree with that interpretation.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#27040: May 16th 2017 at 10:36:19 AM

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Agreed.

I'd have loved it if that was the case, but that's clearly not how they were playing things. That would require them to value Roshi as a character beyond his stupid old pervert schtick.

The upcoming tournament aside, if it's a choice between making a joke about Roshi's perversion at his expense, or showing that he's a wise old man who knew exactly what he was doing, of course they're gonna choose the latter FORMER.

[down]Edit: There's no mistake. I wrote exactly what I intended to write. Yes Sir.

edited 16th May '17 10:52:14 AM by HandsomeRob

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#27041: May 16th 2017 at 10:45:54 AM

[up]The latter? Also, there's no dialogue from him that suggests otherwise, so you can't prove that I'm wrong. Besides, I'm not removing his perviness, just downplaying it a little.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27042: May 16th 2017 at 11:10:40 AM

It doesn't sound like there's an actual reason to downplay it, either.

"..you can't prove that I'm wrong." is a terrible defense of any position. We all know how Roshi is played.

edited 16th May '17 11:13:18 AM by LSBK

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#27043: May 16th 2017 at 11:18:51 AM

I'm not sure what's to gain from downplaying Roshi's actions either.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#27044: May 16th 2017 at 11:31:57 AM

Makes it more consistent with his character in the original manga. He's WAY pervier in the anime.

edited 16th May '17 11:32:29 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27045: May 16th 2017 at 11:34:33 AM

You say that as if the Super anime is trying to be consistant with the manga instead of the anime. That obviously isn't true.

edited 16th May '17 2:41:41 PM by LSBK

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#27046: May 16th 2017 at 11:46:22 AM

And his baseline actions in the manga were already "throw him in jail" level, so does it really matter which took it farther?

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#27047: May 16th 2017 at 2:10:14 PM

Yeah, I know what you mean, PMC. I too always side with the sex offender over his victim. Sure, he has a previous record of molesting people and sure he did make a teenager show him her underwear and sure he asked two young boys with superpowers to kidnap a woman for him and sure he did try to use a miniaturization device to peep on girls in the bathroom, but I still believe that when he was groping a girl who could not resist, he was doing it because he's actually a fine upstanding citizen.

Goku and Tien understood. That's why they allowed him to continue with what looked like sexual assault to untrained eyes.

edited 16th May '17 2:10:44 PM by Arha

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#27048: May 16th 2017 at 2:13:56 PM

[up]

Wow.

That is a fierce burn.

We might need to end this right here.

One Strip! One Strip!
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#27050: May 16th 2017 at 2:40:28 PM

and sure he did try to use a miniaturization device to peep on girls in the bathroom

Shit, I forgot that was actually something that happened..

edited 16th May '17 2:40:46 PM by Lionheart0


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