We don't know for a fact that the Cell Jrs were stronger than Goku because Goku wasn't at full power.
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Let's say for the sake of argument that Vegeta's injuries from fighting Goku, the Kaio Ken kamehameha beam struggle and making the power ball reduced Vegeta by exactly Goku's base power, making Vegeta 10,000, 100,000 as a great ape.
Assuming Vegeta's power level is evenly distributed, then his tail is also 100,000.
So that means a katana is 10,000 times stronger than a gun.
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Okay, but could a gun have cut Vegeta's tail?
Also, haven't Saiyans used tails to attack?
If tails are 10000 times weaker than the rest of them, how did Raditz slap Krillin through a house with his?
Krillin was weaker than Raditz, but not 10000 times weaker.
edited 12th May '17 6:32:27 PM by unnoun
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A) Guns Are Worthless. B) Katanas Are Just Better.
Also, maybe tails are Glass Cannons? They might have the same power level as the rest of the body, but maybe they don't have the same defenses.
edited 12th May '17 6:34:08 PM by WillDeRegio
Also, on the anime making it seem like Goku always planned on rage boost / Super Saiyan 2 Gohan - the manga kind of does as well, once the fighting starts. I think most people here remember that it's first Gohan who comes out with it, believing that that is what Goku is planning on. Which at first, just seems like him still unable to come to terms with the fact that he surpassed his father, trying to rationalize it through his hidden power. But Goku's own dialogue from that point makes it sound like he was planning on this:
Gohan: “I-I’m gradually starting to understand…What father means when he says I’m the only one who can defeat Cell…It seems that since long ago, whenever my anger flares up, I subconsciously begin fighting madly with outrageous power…So…father must be calculating on that…”
Chapter: 405 (DBZ 211), P5.2
Goku: “That’s it…That’s fine, Cell! Get Gohan angry…! If you do, you’ll experience true fear for the first time…”
Chapter: 405 (DBZ 211), P10.4, P10.6
Goku: “…Wait for Gohan to get angry…! He’ll…probably…unleash his true power through anger, and suddenly display ferocious strength [ ] …To defeat Cell…The only thing we can do is place our hopes in this power of Gohan’s…”
Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P7.6, P13.3, P14.7
Context: as Gohan kills the Cell Juniors
Goku: “Hehhehehe…I kne-knew it…”
Now, it could be that this is just Goku's plan B after he realized Gohan doesn't want to fight. But the way he talks, it definitely makes it seem like A) Gohan isn't powerful enough without his rage, even if he wanted to fight and B) Goku was planning on that.
However, since Cell was holding back against Goku, it could be that Cell simply used more power and overpowered Gohan. He does mention using his true speed (while making it clear he's only going all out in speed), but isn't shown powering up and no-one comments on him being stronger than when he fought Goku.
I think it's most likely that Cell WAS using more power and Gohan's rage was the backup plan when Cell proved too powerful, and it just wasn't made very clear. It's easy to see where the confusion came from though.
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When I say they're weak, I mean they're very easy to break. That doesn't mean they can't put any power behind attacks with them. But they're not used often for attacks anyway, and when they do they're not particularly impressive attacks, so they still don't seem that strong in any regard.
edited 12th May '17 6:36:24 PM by Saiga
It says a lot about how Vegeta took that fight that his general reaction to seeing the Earthlings on Namek was basically "Ha! That's hilarious!"
Like, he was only open to working with them out of necessity, but he wasn't exactly hunting them down to make coffee with their bones either. Not until Gohan stole his Dragon Ball.
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recommend not shooting people in the forehead because the bullet might ricochet, I'm not even sure that Goku surviving Bulma even says that much about a power level of 10.
Like, our forehead is a really thick bone you guys. It's one of our most defining skeletal features.
edited 12th May '17 7:37:24 PM by unnoun
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I mean, we dunno how long that was the case. Just that it is by Super.
And that's planets with life. And New Arlia presumably didn't have life until they moved in.
So one day it went up to 29 and then 28 again.
I mean. Maybe gods don't count as mortals.
Dende can sense Beerus and Piccolo can sense Supreme Kai, so there's Godly Ki involved there.
edited 12th May '17 8:01:53 PM by unnoun
Could be that because they're mortals who ascended to godhood, they have mortal ki but can sense godly ki?
But then that wouldn't explain why Super Saiyan Gods have godly ki....
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edited 12th May '17 10:07:05 PM by TobiasDrake
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...I think if Gohan went Super Saiyan 2 in the abridged version Goku would have died. Abridged Gohan doesn't like Goku much.
And, frankly, given what Super Saiyan 2 Gohan is like in the series, I'm not even sure that wouldn't be the case in the manga, because Super Saiyan 2 Gohan is a terrifyingly sadistic monster at the Cell Games. And so scarily powerful that he can make Cell Jrs. stronger than Goku explode.
edited 12th May '17 6:22:34 PM by unnoun